how to ask for a raise

ToxicBunny said:
Ahhhh the joys of people who have no idea about the real world..

Very few companies will give you a raise if you resign, the majority will just let you leave and replace you with someone cheaper.
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in my position i doubt they can hire anyone for cheaper

and yes please i have avalid question i need to write a motivational letter but suck at writing..can someone help
 
Cool E said:
for scarce skills it work. But if its working on butchery, yes it wont work.
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For scarce skills yes, maybe...

But even then, most companies will let you leave because they won't be bullied by the resignation tactic.
 
mooks said:
Exactly as the title says. How do I ask my boss for a raise?

My reasons for doing so are twofold : on the one hand my responsibilities have more than double (both in workload and seniority) in the last 8mnths. Also, my personal circumstances have changed quite dramatically and I find myself with new financial responsibilities. In an ideal world I would wait a while longer between promotion and salary negotiations (because the promotion was initially supposed to be a training period but it was made permanent earlier than anticipated due to some staff changes), but given my personal developments, I'm gonna have to ask now.

My question: on a very practical level, what do I say? "I feel my performance and tasks justify an increase" ? "I'd like more money"? "Pay me properly you corporate miser" ? Do I do it in writing first and then face to face? Do I mention my personal circumstances have changed?

I'd also like to make it known that I really like my job and I'm incredibly grateful for the faith they've put in me by allowing me to progress so quickly. How do I do that without it sounding canned or like a ploy to curry favour?

I'm not afraid of confrontation in a professional environment but I've never had to ask for more before ...
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Tell your boss what your needs and expectations are, and also what your input and value to the company is. An open and honest communication will generally get you much further than intimidation.
 
Beachless said:
It sounds like you have figured most of it out, just go in with a positive non threatening attitude(don’t tell them you will quit if you don’t get it) and have an honest discussion.
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Yes, I feel like I do have it mostly figured out in my head and I am quite sure that I have a good case. What I'm struggling with is the actual practical procedure of how to ask for the raise. I'm talking about the nitty-gritty - what wording to use, what exactly to say to open the discussion and whether I not I should proceed it or follow up with a written confirmation of my request.

Like I said, I've never done it before and I dont want to reduce my chances because I go in there like a bumbling fool.
 
I agree with the whole, don't bring up personal situation.. you are suppose to keep personal stuff at home and really it should have no bearing on your work situation. They didn't ask you do whatever happen in personal life which you feel now requires extra payment.

Workload justification.. meh. Here it depends, if you are handling more that your share of team/company workload perhaps, if its just whats needed for an avg individual contribution then tough sell. Another way to look at it is see what extra responsibilities you have taken on, do you perhaps assist with developing new talent, maybe assist in streamlining operations.. basically.. what do you bring to the table that is not required of you by the contract.

In passing always bear in mind that working overtime (with/out pay) does again not have bearing on salary increases this either unless its been requested directly. Another angle could be to look at the industry standard for what you do and see which side of it you fall on based on your output and responsibilities.

In the end contracted work works out better with raises than permanent for this very reason. I generally give it my all either way hence getting me to sign a perma contract without agreed, clear, concise salary increases &/or promotion requirements procedures known is not something i will ever do hastily.. you basically put yourself in a tight spot pending what you sign in the contract and some companies have a 'resource is a resource' attitude. #ThingsILearnFromSACorporates..
 
mooks said:
Like I said, I've never done it before and I dont want to reduce my chances because I go in there like a bumbling fool.
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Just go there in a good mood knowing you deserve it, if you are depressed and groveling its not going to put you in a good light.

Book a meeting with your manager to keep it more official then state your case dont bring in negative items like the stress leave or your personal issues just say that you feel you have been given a great opportunity to prove yourself and that you feel that you have excelled at it.
Then highlight that you think you are worth more to the company than what you are currently earning and would like them to review your earnings.

If you and your team have been very successful recently its nice say something like "We excel as a team" to show you are a team player.

Then see what they say and go from there.

Of course every manager/boss is different but most appreciate a truthful positive conversation.
 
Messugga said:
I wish I could get a couple of months per year of paid leave and work in a pretty relaxed environment, but we don't always get what we want.
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I beg your pardon ... Please point out a teacher (that work at a place similar to mine) and give me his/her contact details who don't regularly (that means a couple of times daily) have extreme violence on their mind ... and I will point out to you a liar.
 
do you add value to the company - state reasons
do you do more than what is expected - give examples

no response...apply elsewhere
 
These days I feel exploited, I'm the only one working all the time while the rest of my colleagues work and then chat and talk to people over the phone socially. So I might start asking for a raise. Then again, I might be working all the time because I'm slow :D
 
I've just worked out a sneaky way which may help ... update your profile on Linkin with everything. - new photo, duties etc. Your boss gets the mail notifying him, thinks you may be looking elsewhere and *BAM ... better offer!

* This part works only if you know you're needed
 
Dolby said:
I've just worked out a sneaky way which may help ... update your profile on Linkin with everything. - new photo, duties etc. Your boss gets the mail notifying him, thinks you may be looking elsewhere and *BAM ... better offer!

* This part works only if you know you're needed
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Lol, bit also sometimes it might not be appreciated that you may be looking and didn't let them know you have an issue. Sometimes the only win is the one you take with you...
 
I had a chat with one of these training group guys about this as I needed to provide some feedback....

According to him, your contract should spell out what is expected of you. IE what you Could be measured on.

If you have donned duties that fall outside this as a permanent fixture, that is definite motivating factor.
As for your normal responsibilities, he said that if you want a raise, you should be able to show how you've improved/exceeded expectations.

The idea is that you are motivating why you deserve the raise. Basically, what others have already said :D
That goes for leaving personal issues as well as emotional state (stress) out of the discussion.
 
reactor_sa said:
Lol, bit also sometimes it might not be appreciated that you may be looking and didn't let them know you have an issue. Sometimes the only win is the one you take with you...
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True - in my case I brought up my issues and only when nothing was done, did I do the above :P
 
"I need a raise" <- Straight, to the point, no faffing. And he can answer immediately.
 
AcidRaZor said:
"I need a raise" <- Straight, to the point, no faffing. And he can answer immediately.
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That's essentially what I did :p He just kinda chuckled and said he wondered when I was gonna get around to asking him. I requested a 30% increase on my take-home amount and got it - pretty chuffed!
 
I have taken another position for the last 3 years and still waiting for a raise!really tired of them now.My problem is that i have worked for them for the last 14 years and only have experience and no real papers.studying for MCITP and also looking elsewhere.other issue is that since I'm working for so many years i have gained increases over these years so its above market related.Im really frustrated !!!dont know what to do next!
 
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