I have read this thread with interest. I am a Telkom telephone and ADSL subscriber, and generally have had no problem. What I am not sure about, Brenden_E, is with what authority you are engaging in this thread? Anyone can start a thread saying "what needs to be changed?". But what authority do you have to take forward suggestions? Replies on this thread have been thoughtful and explicit, so I hope you have not just been exploiting people's good will in this matter, but have the authority (management level) in Telkom to make a difference. My best wishes to you, and to Telkom, in this journey.