How to resign

RedViking said:
Yeah, I have been thinking about this and the stuff you mentioned. But if I don't risk going on fulltime I will need to employ another employee. So then I will definitely be stuck where I am for a while again. I am just not sure if it is worth it (working two jobs). I rather invest the hours and time building the business and looking for more.

But yeah, a lot to think about.

I am going away for a week next week, so will spend some time thinking about all this.
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I think you'll probably arrive at a good decision. By the time your now-side-hustle has grown to two employees I would imagine it's time to start making plans for the medium to long term (not a dramatic quit on the spot!) Not before then.

Dude, starting off with two employees is more than most people have at the beginning, it's also a liability financially and a heavy cross to bear emotionally. One must navigate very nimbly.

I have to reiterate though, you will get less sleep once you strike out on your own. Much less. For about 5 years, maybe longer. One the one hand you'll grow accustomed to it, on the other it will take a decade off your life. :ROFL:
 
If I resign and the company is big enough - I visit their HR department or email them and ask if they have any specific requirements because sometimes they do.

Otherwise, I write a short email to HR / manager or both thanking them for the opportunity they game me in providing me a job in the first place and then wishing them all the best for the future. I always provide the date in the email that the resignation takes effect from as well as any notice period as required and the date of departure so there is no confusion later.

I never accept counter offers as you will always be looked at as the guy that wanted to leave.
 
Thanks for all the input and also @SlinkyMike for your perspective . I took a nice week break to the midlands(came back with 50 emails waiting, meh) and it helped a lot to clear my mind and think about stuff.

Unless there is a drastic change in the new business and projects coming in, I think I will hang on a little longer before I quiet the steady income and rather employ and train another employee to help handle the work until I feel we have a steady flow of work and more clients providing consistent work. If I can't take care of my employees, I won't be able to take care of myself. They get paid first anyways.

But at least I know now what will be the correct procedure to resign and can start preparing for it when the timing is right. Looking forward to that day.
 
So I took the leap today and handed in a resignation from my long term income, well over a phone call. Just need to send the official email now tonight. Over 10 years... sheesh. The boss handled it much better than I thought, just a bit 'sad' and said he would like to keep the relationship for when I have time to help with freelancing work or in case my business doesn't work out. Anyways... here is to a very bad decision, or a very good one. :ROFL:
 
RedViking said:
So I took the leap today and handed in a resignation from my long term income, well over a phone call. Just need to send the official email now tonight. Over 10 years... sheesh. The boss handled it much better than I thought, just a bit 'sad' and said he would like to keep the relationship for when I have time to help with freelancing work or in case my business doesn't work out. Anyways... here is to a very bad decision, or a very good one. :ROFL:
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Congrats. Now what's the going rate to draw me a square next to my current house where I can park 2 cars in?
 
rietrot said:
Congrats. Now what's the going rate to draw me a square next to my current house where I can park 2 cars in?
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Currently I don't do SA plans as my wife is the Technologist to submit drawings. But hopefully next year some time.

Fees will be based in this:


So for a garage you would probably want to employ a draftsman and lek sy gat to get something done :ROFL:
 
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RedViking said:
So I took the leap today and handed in a resignation from my long term income, well over a phone call. Just need to send the official email now tonight. Over 10 years... sheesh. The boss handled it much better than I thought, just a bit 'sad' and said he would like to keep the relationship for when I have time to help with freelancing work or in case my business doesn't work out. Anyways... here is to a very bad decision, or a very good one. :ROFL:
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Congratulations and all the best of luck with your adventure. :thumbsup:
 
Can't believe it has already been 4 months since I have resigned. Reading post #64 and #65 and still hearing @SlinkyMike in my head, reminded me of that month I was having sleepless nights thinking, should I jump or should I not. I decided to stay, I decided not to stay. I took the jump. Reminds me now of that scene in Stranger Things first season where the boy (Mike) jumps off the cliff.

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Besides for December and January which was really quiet, I am extremely glad I took the jump. I still work long hours, but not to keep a boss happy, to build a career and think of ways to grow and find new clients. New projects have started to come in, so if no-one cancels their plans for some reason, there is enough work to cover the basics for the next 5-6 months, maybe even employ a 3rd employee to help cope with the work. I am grateful.

There has been some other personal massive unplanned events that had a huge financial impact on me and my family. I started a thread somewhere on getting a big loan, but so far we are making it just just just every month. My wife unfortunately had to go back to work, despite not always having the strength to get up. But that is the thing with life. There is just so much you can do to plan, there is another force you have no control over, no matter how well you plan it out.
 
RedViking said:
Can't believe it has already been 4 months since I have resigned. Reading post #64 and #65 and still hearing @SlinkyMike in my head, reminded me of that month I was having sleepless nights thinking, should I jump or should I not. I decided to stay, I decided not to stay. I took the jump. Reminds me now of that scene in Stranger Things first season where the boy (Mike) jumps off the cliff.

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Besides for December and January which was really quiet, I am extremely glad I took the jump. I still work long hours, but not to keep a boss happy, to build a career and think of ways to grow and find new clients. New projects have started to come in, so if no-one cancels their plans for some reason, there is enough work to cover the basics for the next 5-6 months, maybe even employ a 3rd employee to help cope with the work. I am grateful.

There has been some other personal massive unplanned events that had a huge financial impact on me and my family. I started a thread somewhere on getting a big loan, but so far we are making it just just just every month. My wife unfortunately had to go back to work, despite not always having the strength to get up. But that is the thing with life. There is just so much you can do to plan, there is another force you have no control over, no matter how well you plan it out.
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Congrats dude. Stunning job.

For those reading, here is my post:
SlinkyMike said:
You could not choose a worse time for such an endeavour my friend. There isn't a business in the country looking for consultants now. Massive projects are cancelled left and right and big firms are cutting costs everywhere in an effort to avoid retrenchments, few are succeeding. This is not an economy for lone wolves.

Plenty of things are guaranteed, the fact that you will regret this is almost certainly one of them. If you are planning to start a business then doing so with a 'build it they will come' approach is risky to the point of stupidity under normal circumstances. Under the current circumstances, well... you're not stupid, think it over.

A business plan (that has a chance and would attract investors) looks something like this: "I am going to sell bottles of Acme Widget. I have buyers lined up as well as a network of new buyers to market to. I have suppliers who are willing to sell bottles of Acme Widget to me for x% under what my buyers are willing to pay and my running costs are y% of that margin."

If your plan is not at the very least up to that level then forget this foolishness of resigning until such time as you have a plan.

"Nothing is guaranteed" is a dream, banks don't give you money for those.

Swallow your pride and knuckle under. You have a job, the economy is about to absolutely fscking schit the bed. Knuckle. Under.

BTW: I have started three businesses. One succeeded. Twice I lost everything but the shirt on my back.
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TBH: I would still give you the same advice if you asked the same question today but here we are and you have defied the odds! I'm not sure how many people reading this will fully understand what you have gone through to do that.

I do and I salute you.

I'm still going to say that 6 months runway is nerve wracking. Please focus on building those reserves but that's enough sober cynicism for a Friday morning. You deserve to celebrate, it is not easy what you have done. :)
 
SlinkyMike said:
Congrats dude. Stunning job.

For those reading, here is my post:


TBH: I would still give you the same advice if you asked the same question today but here we are and you have defied the odds! I'm not sure how many people reading this will fully understand what you have gone through to do that.

I do and I salute you.

I'm still going to say that 6 months runway is nerve wracking. Please focus on building those reserves but that's enough sober cynicism for a Friday morning. You deserve to celebrate, it is not easy what you have done. :)
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Well, I got contacted by the company I left last year, they asked if I can give some guys training and what will it cost (probably expect the same slave wages I worked for). After I gave my hourly rate, the conversation didn't last long and they "had to rush to an urgent meeting, will get back to me". Haven't heard from them since. :ROFL:
 
Probably found the easiest way over over the last few months: wait for 2 years of COVID to take its toll on the company you work for. More and more departments decide to make WFH permanent, the head office location eventually becomes obsolete, so they decide to move the function to an office in a different part of the country. Every department whose heads didn’t want them WFH gets made redundant if they don’t want to move to the new head office or the new office in the north where those departments are being moved to, or can’t find suitable alternative employment.

Get a letter saying your department was one of those and that you’re up for redundancy. Accept the redundancy offer because other internal jobs were meh and you’re actually sick of the company.

Only 5 days to go and almost 7 years comes to an end. Profit.
 
The Voice said:
Probably found the easiest way over over the last few months: wait for 2 years of COVID to take its toll on the company you work for. More and more departments decide to make WFH permanent, the head office location eventually becomes obsolete, so they decide to move the function to an office in a different part of the country. Every department whose heads didn’t want them WFH gets made redundant if they don’t want to move to the new head office or the new office in the north where those departments are being moved to, or can’t find suitable alternative employment.

Get a letter saying your department was one of those and that you’re up for redundancy. Accept the redundancy offer because other internal jobs were meh and you’re actually sick of the company.

Only 5 days to go and almost 7 years comes to an end. Profit.
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Where to next then?
 
RedViking said:
Stumbled onto this post searching for something else. Almost end of 2022. Still kicking, but not without its challenges and nights without sleep! Do I regret it? Ha! Not yet.
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Out of interest, what is it that you do for a living?
It has been great reading the progression of this thread and big up to you for sticking to your guns!
 
Haggis McMutton said:
Congrats RV! You're a talented guy.
1) Never undersell yourself - you are worth more than you think
2) Find a partner who can carry things while you take leave from time to time for your own sanity.
All the best with the new venture!

I did it for 7 years, then came back to full time consulting. Quite happy right now.
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1. I am slowly learning this.
2. The partner thing is sometimes frustrating, specially when it comes to decision making and there are things I wish was done differently. But I am using it a learning curve as there is still a lot I need to learn.
 
Gona be a 2 sentance letter in a Unisa envelope when I see my manager next week... any word and it becomes a 24hr notice. 15 year career down the drain.
 
RedViking said:
I guess it might be a stupid question to some. But I have no idea how to resign, or how to write a formal letter or introduction that is a bit more personal. I know there will be a letter that shouldn't say,

Dear X,

this will be my last month at work. I will pursue new opportunities towards greener pastures. I am extraordinary grateful for my years of slavery and what I have learned working for you, but it is time for me to go, or die trying.

Your only Architectural Designer.
Viking, RedViking

Long version:

I have been working for the company (more like working for a person as there are no other managers) for 12 years plus. I was the first employee and helped build his company and team. I am the only designer on complex projects and the person with the most general knowledge in the company.

I can write a book on what all he is doing wrong, but that is not the point of this thread.

I used to have a very good personal relationship with the boss, but as he got richer (and employees poorer), older and bigger the relationship started fading. Even though there are serious things I am not happy with, I have a lot of respect for him as he gave an 18 year old with no qualifications, home or future an opportunity, and I feel I owe my life to him, even though I am a slave. He never used to question what I do and if I need to go away I just send a message I am out of office.

The resignation will be by email (not a local company) and I will probably receive a shocked Skype call soon after trying to convince me not to go as well as an increase blah blah blah...... although I think the company is not doing so well anymore, so maybe no increase, lol.

I am working on a new business opportunity and want to be ready when the time comes. Its just just around the corner. It needs to work out.
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i waited till my boss was out the country sent him an sms .havent seen him since .he owed me nothing and vice versa .self employed for 25 years now.
 
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