HP ProLiant MicroServer

Keeper said:
nah man, if you have your setup going on plex, cool - I was just suggesting OpenELEC because I thought transcoding was an issue for you.



yeah but transcoding is done client side though, not server side (I think)
IE: on the player, not the Server
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I actually think it's the other way around. Transcoding done server-side.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
I actually think it's the other way around. Transcoding done server-side.
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hmmm... i'd say that's a bad move on their part then - having each device transcode its own video would be more efficient than 1 system doing all the work.

surely there must be a way to turn it off for systems that don't need transcoding?
 
Keeper said:
520GT. i'm not sure a GPU will help if the HP is only going to be used to serve the files, or if it's even needed actually.
CPU is most important, and extra RAM can't hurt..... but GPU is only needed if you are outputting through HDMI from the HP itself. (for sound, too)

Edit: transcoding might be better with a GPU - but for streaming, not a chance.
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mayb I am using "streaming" incorrectly here. I want this machine to function as an htpc, i.e. I want to connect via hdmi/whatever to multiple TVs and each should be able to play different content at the same time.
In my mind, the GPU should be handling the load of the display, although I guess some TVs can also handle some of that.
Guess I will just have to get 1 and try it out :)
So where can I get 1??
 
lucifir said:
mayb I am using "streaming" incorrectly here. I want this machine to function as an htpc, i.e. I want to connect via hdmi/whatever to multiple TVs and each should be able to play different content at the same time.
In my mind, the GPU should be handling the load of the display, although I guess some TVs can also handle some of that.
Guess I will just have to get 1 and try it out :)
So where can I get 1??
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You won't be able to use one server to more than one screen unless you can drop more than one graphics card in it ( since you will need to output audio over HDMI )

How would you plan to control it? Any remote would cause major fun problems if you have two instances of a media program running.

As a rule, either get a tv that supports DLNA or get one unit per tv.

I am going to simplify my system when my Raspberry Pi arrives, and have one microserver for storage, and each raspberry will stream dedicated to a tv.
 
Keeper said:
nah man, if you have your setup going on plex, cool - I was just suggesting OpenELEC because I thought transcoding was an issue for you.



yeah but transcoding is done client side though, not server side (I think)
IE: on the player, not the Server
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Transcoding server side dude. And only if the client cannot decode the video its self.
 
lucifir said:
mayb I am using "streaming" incorrectly here. I want this machine to function as an htpc, i.e. I want to connect via hdmi/whatever to multiple TVs and each should be able to play different content at the same time.
In my mind, the GPU should be handling the load of the display, although I guess some TVs can also handle some of that.
Guess I will just have to get 1 and try it out :)
So where can I get 1??
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yeah i dunno what the hell you are trying to do here :p
what bullzeye said is correct. you need a separate player for each TV.

get an HP, and use it as your server to the other small media players.

lucifir said:
i c cybernatic has the server going for R1700 .... is that a good price??
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yes.
 
Mike Smit said:
Sigh... this XBMC vs OpenElec vs Plex thing keeps coming up. :rolleyes: I have tried them all and Plex suits my purposes perfectly.

If you can get OpenElec working on my bluray player in the lounge, Roku2 in game room, LG TV in bedroom and 3 laptops in kids rooms then I will change. IE: no extra device. Use existing.
To top it off, I need a means for TV Shows to be tracked so when I am done with one episode, the next is available in the queue - and across the rooms. Not just one.
If I stop watching a movie in the lounge and go continue in my game room, it must resume from where I left off in the lounge.

AFAIK, neither XBMC nor OE can provide a multi room setup like Plex? Plex also coming with multi user to add to multi room.
Transcoding is the least of my worries. Just need a machine that can cope with a big load.
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My setup with OE works like this. But you need to migrate your library to a Mysql db (not difficult at all)
 
zamicro said:
My setup with OE works like this. But you need to migrate your library to a Mysql db (not difficult at all)
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Can it "remember" across rooms what you have watched and what you are busy watching?
Most important if a series fan, does it have an "on deck" category that tracks what I am watching and queues the next episode automatically?

Can XBMC or OpenElec run on my Roku2, Sammy TV, Sammy Bluray player, Mobile devices (Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Note, iPad) etc... From what I recall when researching all the options you need a PC per room and cannot run either XBMC or OpenElec on existing devices. Stand to be corrected though. Been a while since I fiddled with these.

Do you have to migrate the MySQL DB per device or will new installations pickup the server with no fuss?

Looked at the alternatives and fiddled with them a bit. They don't come close to what Plex offers in a multiroom environment IMO.
 
Mike Smit said:
Can it "remember" across rooms what you have watched and what you are busy watching?
Most important if a series fan, does it have an "on deck" category that tracks what I am watching and queues the next episode automatically?

Can XBMC or OpenElec run on my Roku2, Sammy TV, Sammy Bluray player, Mobile devices (Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Note, iPad) etc... From what I recall when researching all the options you need a PC per room and cannot run either XBMC or OpenElec on existing devices. Stand to be corrected though. Been a while since I fiddled with these.

Do you have to migrate the MySQL DB per device or will new installations pickup the server with no fuss?

Looked at the alternatives and fiddled with them a bit. They don't come close to what Plex offers in a multiroom environment IMO.
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Love Plex for iOS and Android. However on Windows it's a different story - tried it twice now and quality just doesn't look as good as XBMC. I don't know what it is but I get weird artifacts when playing hd content especially. Thus I have opted for best of both worlds, XBMC for my TV and Plex for mobile devices. Just wish they could use the same libraries :(
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Love Plex for iOS and Android. However on Windows it's a different story - tried it twice now and quality just doesn't look as good as XBMC. I don't know what it is but I get weird artifacts when playing hd content especially. Thus I have opted for best of both worlds, XBMC for my TV and Plex for mobile devices. Just wish they could use the same libraries :(
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That is odd dude. I have a second screen setup on my dev machine purely for plex for watching movies while coding.
Using an i7 Gen2 with a 560GT if that matters?
 
DsBalsak said:
U do get xbmc for android and iOS devices
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Kewl. Part 1 of the equation done.
If I start watching something on my pad using XBMC then switch to my TV, will the one know where the other was left off?
Or if I watch a movie on my pad will it not show in my unwatched list when I use the TV next time?

I have a feeling the TV and Pad won't know about each other due to no server to manage everything?
 
Keeper said:
yeah, been out for 2 weeks already.
they say no rooting is even required, and it's the full-blown xbmc.
http://xbmc.org/theuni/2012/07/13/xbmc-for-android/


As much as i'd love to try plex, I just won't be able to cope without PseudoTV.
Sometimes it's just nice to flip channels than to weed through hundreds of series...
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Its called Unwatched or On Deck (plex). Me thinks you not used Plex before?

I only weed through series if I want to watch something old over again.

Anyway, had this XBMC vs OE vs Plex many pages back. No one could win the debate so we left it. Depends on your usage. Bottom line is Plex is for a multi room/device environment. It can't be beat.

Honestly though, even for a single TV setup - I would use Plex. Its just so simple to setup and use.
 
Why do you keep thinking we are "debating xbmc vs plex" in every post?
im not debating anything here :erm:
 
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