Iburst WiMax and LTE

Curious, what speeds and usage. Oh, yes, and price of CPE.
 
WiMax requires LOS (line of sight) and the CPE normally costs R2500, but some places, like telkom, has a monthly fee of about R240.

Jagtiger said:
Curious, what speeds and usage. Oh, yes, and price of CPE.
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I would be happy with my current package, which is 5GB (with mid month topup of course ;) ) and 2mbps speed. :D
 
eltherza said:
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/wimax1.htm

There is non-line of site type wimax, wondering if they are implementing this - because then Ill have a go. If it's line of site only, I'll give it a skip.
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Yeah, but I thought they just work like 3G, which is kinda a waste to implement, since we already have plenty 3G providers and some even have reasonable pricing. ;)

LOS is better, cause you have petter pings/latencies with them. If it's going to be the mobile one, then I am not interested.
 
SharkBait said:
LOS is better, cause you have petter pings/latencies with them. If it's going to be the mobile one, then I am not interested.
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Tried out telkoms wimax LOS a while ago (in trial). Amazing, basically DSL latencies, high throughput. Only time you had to worry was during a storm, then every bolt would throw latency up and throughput down for a second or so. Loved it, don't understand why it wasn't adopted more with all the cable theft.
 
I don't like "mobile" version of it. It turns into 3G-like service, with lags and stuff that accompany 3G.
 
RVQ said:
If the device is pick up and go like 3G/iBurst that could make it a great seller for people in complexes and gypsy's.
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Yeah, a good business plan would be to approach complexes, offer to hook up a few wimax LOS and have the complex subscribe to it [with a load balancing for fairness]. With 1 wimax tower you could offer a complex with 100 people at least 512K "lines" (depending on the speed of wimax, I read you can get to 1Gbps... 10Mbps for everyone in the complex!) - cutting telkom out completely and fast/cheap install of hardware.

If you can beat telkom to installing cables to complexes, I'm think you'll get the business
 
eltherza said:
Tried out telkoms wimax LOS a while ago (in trial). Amazing, basically DSL latencies, high throughput. Only time you had to worry was during a storm, then every bolt would throw latency up and throughput down for a second or so. Loved it, don't understand why it wasn't adopted more with all the cable theft.
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I had telkom wimax and loved it to bits. But I agree, they should have invested more into it, but no, they wanted to "compete" in the 3G market. :(

eltherza said:
Yeah, a good business plan would be to approach complexes, offer to hook up a few wimax LOS and have the complex subscribe to it [with a load balancing for fairness]. With 1 wimax tower you could offer a complex with 100 people at least 512K "lines" (depending on the speed of wimax, I read you can get to 1Gbps... 10Mbps for everyone in the complex!) - cutting telkom out completely and fast/cheap install of hardware.

If you can beat telkom to installing cables to complexes, I'm think you'll get the business
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Yeah, but what is the cost of putting up a tower and for online gaming purposes, I wouldn't be interested, as everyone would be downloading and screwing up the latencies, unless I can get my own CPE. :D
 
This is what worries me: "iBurst has however already spread its wings with its WiMax network which was built in partnership with Vodacom Business, "
 
Durandal said:
This is what worries me: "iBurst has however already spread its wings with its WiMax network which was built in partnership with Vodacom Business, "
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But Vodacom cut ties after that network was built, I don't think Vodacom will be involved with iBurst moving forward. Vodacom is probably the main reason WiMax never took off with iBurst, Vodacom prices on a small network meant to compete with low cost ADSL...
 
Maybe wimax will run on the vodacom business network instead of their "wireless" network because of capacity...
 
RVQ said:
But Vodacom cut ties after that network was built, I don't think Vodacom will be involved with iBurst moving forward. Vodacom is probably the main reason WiMax never took off with iBurst, Vodacom prices on a small network meant to compete with low cost ADSL...
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It doesn't say that they are no longer 'involved'. One can read it both ways. Personally, if Vodacom WASN'T still involved, I would not have mentioned their name, or would have clarified their PAST involvement (which the article doesn't), but since they do...? Sorry, but to me this sounds like nothing more than advance warning that to get higher speeds you are going to be coughing up blood...so until I hear otherwise, I am going to treat this press release with a high level of sceptism. Sorry, but iBurst has been stagnating for years from a technology point of view, so pardon my doubt overt his sudden claim. I truly hope to be proved wrong, but...
 
Durandal said:
It doesn't say that they are no longer 'involved'. One can read it both ways. Personally, if Vodacom WASN'T still involved, I would not have mentioned their name, or would have clarified their PAST involvement (which the article doesn't), but since they do...? Sorry, but to me this sounds like nothing more than advance warning that to get higher speeds you are going to be coughing up blood...so until I hear otherwise, I am going to treat this press release with a high level of sceptism.
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Vodacom has been swallowed up, South Africans no longer make the decisions. They've built their own business division and started providing SMB services. Why would the greedy .... share the pie when they can have it all? Especially now that these two companies are no longer a "family" business. But like you say, can be read two ways.

Durandal said:
Sorry, but iBurst has been stagnating for years from a technology point of view, so pardon my doubt overt his sudden claim. I truly hope to be proved wrong, but...
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All the reason to make a change now? Remember they going to be going head on in the wireless market with major players like Vodacom, MTN, anyone that gets there hands on spectrum they have to make the move now. Why spends millions upgrading back haul to fibre when Vodacom has already done this? When the iBurst technology can only make use of so much of this virtually unlimited bandwidth?

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it will be dirt cheap, all I say is Vodacom has better things to do and these two step brothers have no reason to stay together now that their parents are divorced...
 
Last time I check Vodacom and MTN were more reliant on Telkom than Telkom on Vodacom or MTN.

These guys use the Telkom network with special dispensations. No different than ADSL, except maybe the price.
 
RVQ said:
Vodacom has been swallowed up, South Africans no longer make the decisions. They've built their own business division and started providing SMB services. Why would the greedy .... share the pie when they can have it all? Especially now that these two companies are no longer a "family" business. But like you say, can be read two ways.



All the reason to make a change now? Remember they going to be going head on in the wireless market with major players like Vodacom, MTN, anyone that gets there hands on spectrum they have to make the move now. Why spends millions upgrading back haul to fibre when Vodacom has already done this? When the iBurst technology can only make use of so much of this virtually unlimited bandwidth?

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it will be dirt cheap, all I say is Vodacom has better things to do and these two step brothers have no reason to stay together now that their parents are divorced...
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No, I agree with you completely - it does make sense to make the move, and I hope it bodes well for us. It's just that I don't really want to get too excited before I see actual contract terms and costs of bandwidth.
 
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