ICASA Ruling on Local Cap?

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I ready somewhere that ICASA has a ruling that ISPs may not cap local browsing. Can someone perhaps explain or clarify this for me?

Surely if this is true, we should e paying a monthly fee for "unlimited" cap?:confused:
 
They may not cap you but nothing was said of not billing you for the use. Icasa needs to get a better law writer. So what you must ask is why icasa made the law it made and if it was realy the law they wanted?
 
The stupid moronic rule states:
Local bandwidth usage shall not be subject to the cap.

It also has some other stuff about Service Level Agreements which are also ignored.
 
I think in future mybroadband should just give ICASA the draft legislation and let them just read through it and sign.

Although, techinically what most people asked for was "uncapped local". Nobody seemed to add "free" to that request.
 
We all seen those promotions where a shop state, special price, only 5 per customer. What if a law is introduced that say shops may not limit quantities. Does that mean that the customer can pay one fixed price and take as many as he like. The lucky first few will grab all they can carry and the rest will get nothing. Same with the internet.

Uncapped sucks, I hope they never introduce uncapped accounts. It will kill our already crippled internet.

Cheaper bandwidth, YES PLEASE, but NOT uncapped. Each user should contribute to the cost of the net, according to the amount he/she use the net.
 
@willemvdm. Erm, actually, apples are not infinite.

The internet is.

Bandwidth is purchased from international resellers at GB/s. You hear that ... Gigabytes per second.
EDIT:Telkom does not go to a reseller and purchase 400GB of bandwidth, they purchase 4GB/s for a period of time.

We deserve to be treated the same way.

Now, please let me know how it is that you cannot understand that simple point, because we sure as heck have failed to make ICASA understand that.
 
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That is where you are wrong, the internet is not infinite either. Whether it is 4GB/s or just 1MB/s or what is Seacom now, 1.28TB/s, there is a limit and increasing that limit costs money and each user of the internet must contribute to that cost. All I'm saying is each user must contribute in accordance to his usage, i.e. No Uncapped.

I'm a small farmer, I get endlessly frustrated when people come and want to buy something from me, but keep on arguing about the price. I also need to make a living, by making a profit. Now the people buying from me has a choice, buy from me at the price I'm asking or go buy somewhere else. That's the free market system. If government sets a law stating that the price of my goods may not exceed x amount, I might as well stop farming all together, cause there will be no or very little profit for me.

So why do we want to limit the telekoms from earning money, they need money to expand. Yes in the past there were no competition, but that is slowly changing now. Just let things balance itself out by itself. And don't let me get started on escom and the price regulations they are facing. I would much rather pay more, substantially more for electricity, and experience a good constant flow, than the crappy load shedding we experiencing now.
 
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I agree with Willem, you must pay for the cap you use, just because an abundance of bandwidth is availible does not entitle you to a "free" service, rather a cheaper service. I would happily pay the same price I am paying now for say 50Gig etc.
 
davemc said:
@willemvdm. Erm, actually, apples are not infinite.

The internet is.

Bandwidth is purchased from international resellers at GB/s. You hear that ... Gigabytes per second.
EDIT:Telkom does not go to a reseller and purchase 400GB of bandwidth, they purchase 4GB/s for a period of time.

We deserve to be treated the same way.

Now, please let me know how it is that you cannot understand that simple point, because we sure as heck have failed to make ICASA understand that.
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But there is a contention ratio... grrr Its such a simple concept! AARGGG:mad:

listen up. on your 1mbps line you have the capacity to cost more than u pay for it! that is because it costs the company more to buy 1 mbps of bandwidth than u pay for it. so they devide the cost among many users... if you all use all your bandwidth all the time then your speeds are going to be 1/<contention ratio> thats about 10KBps for 4mbps ADSL

you heard me, if everyone that was subscribed to 4mbps used it at once the speed of each connection would be around 10KBps
 
davemc said:
@willemvdm. Erm, actually, apples are not infinite.

The internet is.

Bandwidth is purchased from international resellers at GB/s. You hear that ... Gigabytes per second.
EDIT:Telkom does not go to a reseller and purchase 400GB of bandwidth, they purchase 4GB/s for a period of time.

We deserve to be treated the same way.

Now, please let me know how it is that you cannot understand that simple point, because we sure as heck have failed to make ICASA understand that.
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you are 100% correct,,there are variable factors that also come into play but this is basically how it works


local loop should be uncapped, they could set a reasonable fixed price for unlimited local usage
ICASA=FAIL
 
Oh ya my argument also works on local, since there is a contention ratio on the local DSLAMS as well as major routing points
 
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