Ignition problem

Stokstert

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A great take 5 blaaislaai for being a man with balls coming up with the real reason, just so that the next guy doesn't ask the same question again without checking the obvious. :D:D
 

TestMate

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You have two choices:

1: Keep replacing everything that is suggested so far here...
some sensor...
starter solenoid...
ignition switch...
whatever else...

or

2: Go to someone who knows what is doing and let him diagnose the problem for you.

Either way you will pay.
I would rather pay the technician instead of filling the coffins of the retail shops untill the problem is sorted.

Best of luck

Edit: Just looked at the 'fix' now :)
 
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blaaislaai

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OK,

ignition problems again, turns out it's not the battery terminal!

Going to get the celenoid replaced, It must be that.

The car is 12years old, and this is the first problem its having. quite impressed
 

Stokstert

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OK,

ignition problems again, turns out it's not the battery terminal!

Going to get the celenoid replaced, It must be that.

The car is 12years old, and this is the first problem its having. quite impressed

Don't buy a solenoid as yet, they are quite costly if the problem actually lies somewhere else and Bosch solenoids normally don't give problems. Bad connections and corrosion is more often the problem. Next time it won't start, take a screwdriver and make a connection between the thick terminal at the top of the solenoid (the thick wire coming from the battery) and the smaller terminal facing the engine. Just don't short out to ground as sparks fill fly. :eek:
If it starts easily you have a bad connection somewhere else. If it still battles to start, take the starter out and resolder the small spadeterminal on the solenoid, also the other solderpoint you will find on it. Loosen all connections and clean them.
For your own interim solution make yourself a small flylead with crocodile clamps so that you can connect the big top terminal or the battery positve and the small terminal as described above. It's easier to start it this way than to push start the car.
The problem might as well be a worn ignition switch module which is cheaper than a solenoid.
 

blaaislaai

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Thanks for the reply Oom.Stokstert

I'll be taking the car to a garage, am tired of struggling to find the problem.

But for now, I'll use the temporary solution with the flylead as mentioned if it works.
 

Stokstert

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Thanks for the reply Oom.Stokstert

I'll be taking the car to a garage, am tired of struggling to find the problem.

But for now, I'll use the temporary solution with the flylead as mentioned if it works.

Ok, just pull off the small terminal on the solenoid (it has a small catch on the plastic terminal shoe) and slide it on and off a few times to remove any corrosion. Sometimes that is all it needs to ensure a good connection again.
 

blaaislaai

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Hi,


I have taken my car to a mechanic yesterday, turns out the ignition switch was faulty. they replaced it and now the car is starting very quick, better than before!

R815 later though..
 

RazedInBlack

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Hi,


I have taken my car to a mechanic yesterday, turns out the ignition switch was faulty. they replaced it and now the car is starting very quick, better than before!

R815 later though..

I'll bet the greater part of that was for labour, right?

Same thing happened to me. Had to buy the new ignition switch which was R350 and labour was gonna be about +R500. But I did it myself.
 

blaaislaai

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I'll bet the greater part of that was for labour, right?

Same thing happened to me. Had to buy the new ignition switch which was R350 and labour was gonna be about +R500. But I did it myself.

The ignition switch was about R450, Guess the labour was for the rest of the amount.
 

RazedInBlack

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The ignition switch was about R450, Guess the labour was for the rest of the amount.

Mine was a 97 Audi. I was still in Centurion (2007) that time so I took my car to Audi Centurion. They said it takes about 2 - 3 hours to replace. I took 30 minutes to do the job.
 

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Mine was a 97 Audi. I was still in Centurion (2007) that time so I took my car to Audi Centurion. They said it takes about 2 - 3 hours to replace. I took 30 minutes to do the job.

+1 for learning to work on your car yourself!! :D
 

Stokstert

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Bought a ignition switch module, not the complete switch, from Goldwagen for less than R150 iirc a while ago for another Jetta Mk2.
 

RazedInBlack

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+1 for learning to work on your car yourself!! :D

Ye, these computers and diagnostic functions cars have these days puts you off totally sometimes. Once you get past that you'll notice the basic are still the same.

And I don't know much about cars, to be honest.
 

blaaislaai

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I could have done it myself as well, but electronics is not my strong point! Maybe I should ask you guys next time :p
 
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