I'm looking for the cheapest static ip solution.

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I know some isp's allow you to add on to an existing dsl account a static ip, i'm wondering if anyone knows of the cheapest
 
Why bother? Just get a normal ADSL account with a dynamic IP address and use something like DynDNS to keep track of what that IP address is.

Cheaper than the rip off they charge for a fixed IP address, and works just as well.
 
that wouldnt work for me as there is downtime everytime my ip changed and the dns entires had not expired, then i would have my client programs disconnected and that really won't help
 
Then you need to look at your set-up because something is very wrong.

Getting a static IP will theoretically sort your problem out but there appears to be other underlying problems that you need to address first.
 
The TTL's on DynDNS's DNS entries are so short that they change almost instantaneously when your IP address changes. The client app you install to monitor IP address changes works really well.

There must be some other underlying cause.
 
hilton said:
Then you need to look at your set-up because something is very wrong.

Getting a static IP will theoretically sort your problem out but there appears to be other underlying problems that you need to address first.
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explain yourself son
 
which underlying problem are you thinking off?

i can't see any other problem existing other than by having a dynaminc ip your dns entry may not match it till it expires
 
My company uses a Vox product for fixed IP - slow but cheap. Haven't seen better pricing yet.
That said, that Xdsl lik that was posted above (5GB + fixed IP for R500) looks like a really good price, depending on your bandwidth requirements, though.

@ Hilton, your comment didn't make any sense to me either.
 
K3NS31 said:
My company uses a Vox product for fixed IP - slow but cheap. Haven't seen better pricing yet.
That said, that Xdsl lik that was posted above (5GB + fixed IP for R500) looks like a really good price, depending on your bandwidth requirements, though.

@ Hilton, your comment didn't make any sense to me either.
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Well its not bad, i will eventually need the 5gb in the upcoming months but for now a 1gb account would do me fine.
 
What a waste of money. For R500 you can get a 10gig account from WebAfrica with a dynamic ip address.
 
well, i guess hilton didnt want to tell us what he was thinking
 
Facts
Well firstly, dyndns does not change your ip into a static one.
As deweyzeph pointed out the TTL on the dyndns entries are now very short, 60 seconds(dyndns never did this last time i used them a long time ago).
This TTL have does trickle down even to the windows dns cache.


So at maxiumum now i should have an old dns entry on my client for only 60 seconds, tried and tested, thats a short enough downtime for me to live with.

So while some of the reasoning here was very wrong, dyndns will provide a suitable solution.
 
bboy said:
which underlying problem are you thinking off?

i can't see any other problem existing other than by having a dynaminc ip your dns entry may not match it till it expires
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a few things

It goes to your premises. Meaning:

1) If your line goes down;
2) If your electricity is off;
3) If your server peels over and die because of (2) or "act of God"
4) ADSL upload speeds are crap, meaning, even though you have a "4mbps" line, getting the data TO your client FROM your premises might take a while, thus servicing more than 1 client can become very very very painfully slow.
5) See 1+2+4-3+ my original point of it being on your premises = 5 :p
6) People steal ****

So saying that you're willing to shell out a few hundred odd bucks just to get a static IP address when a service like dyndns.org would do the same for you (and update very fast, I must say, I never see any downtime because of it) and comparing it to the caveats you currently have re: it not being in a data center.... then I think it's silly to think it's not as reliable...
 
bboy said:
Facts
Well firstly, dyndns does not change your ip into a static one.
As deweyzeph pointed out the TTL on the dyndns entries are now very short, 60 seconds(dyndns never did this last time i used them a long time ago).
This TTL have does trickle down even to the windows dns cache.


So at maxiumum now i should have an old dns entry on my client for only 60 seconds, tried and tested, thats a short enough downtime for me to live with.

So while some of the reasoning here was very wrong, dyndns will provide a suitable solution.
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Nope it doesn't really change it to a static IP address, but what you could do is (if you have a website and can add DNS records to your site) have what I do:

CName record of home.acidrazor.com redirect to acidrazor.dyndns.org which in turn gives you the IP address.

This gives you the flexibility to change to a static IP solution (or data center) without interrupting your program by just changing the home.acidrazor.com portion of your DNS settings.

The max downtime you'll experience with TTL trickle isn't much as it's already set at 60 seconds. So every 60 seconds the browser/application/internet knows to check for a new record. So you might find that your IP address only gets updated after 1 minute 59 seconds. as the last DNS server might only update on the 59th second....

2 minutes isn't that bad....
 
AcidRaZor said:
a few things

It goes to your premises. Meaning:

1) If your line goes down;
2) If your electricity is off;
3) If your server peels over and die because of (2) or "act of God"
4) ADSL upload speeds are crap, meaning, even though you have a "4mbps" line, getting the data TO your client FROM your premises might take a while, thus servicing more than 1 client can become very very very painfully slow.
5) See 1+2+4-3+ my original point of it being on your premises = 5 :p
6) People steal ****

So saying that you're willing to shell out a few hundred odd bucks just to get a static IP address when a service like dyndns.org would do the same for you (and update very fast, I must say, I never see any downtime because of it) and comparing it to the caveats you currently have re: it not being in a data center.... then I think it's silly to think it's not as reliable...
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I fully understand your points, i'm not hosting a website here, just a small info server, literaly a few kb per client per connection. For now with my testing etc etc i'm not going to need to be totally redundant. Maybe one day when the need requires I will move on, but cost and ease of setup and debugging are what I need now. Anyway, all I needed was a static ip for now and that topics been pretty much covered.
 
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