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Just read an interesting article on news24 about this "new" political party coming into power. You're probably thinking "No chance ANC has 2/3 majority at the moment". Well, say the new party takes 20% of the ANC's votes, that would leave the ANC with approx 46% of the vote, they team up with a few other parties to gather the required 25%(DA + others) and all of a sudden the ANC has got a problem(46% plays 45%) and may very well not have control of the country, gets one thinking!

The letter went on to say, "What would the ANC do if it Zuma did not become president? Would they surrender power that easily?"

All I can say is I am gonna be watching the next election with great interest.

P.S. vote...its your obligation and responsibility to the country.
 
hoegh said:
P.S. vote...its your obligation and responsibility to the country.
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+1000

How anyone can choose not to vote is simply beyond me. Giving the ANC a total majority is extremely dangerous as they could re-write the constitution any way they want. If you don't know who to vote for then take some time and educate yourself. Or just vote for one of the opposition parties. But for Pete's sake just don't give the ANC a super majority.
 
Agreed! That goes for the sheep on all sides of the spectrum :)
My question is... if this new party is created, who have they got in mind for president???? Who's face will be on the ballot paper, and lead them?
Not dear Thabo I hope. The ANC doesn't want him, and neither do the rest of us.
 
CeeBee said:
My question is... if this new party is created, who have they got in mind for president???? Who's face will be on the ballot paper, and lead them?
Not dear Thabo I hope. The ANC doesn't want him, and neither do the rest of us.
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Thabo has had his two terms
 
all I can say is I really do hope this new party is created in time for the elections, terror is the only one standing up and actually saying anything about this "crowd" that has taken over the ANC and its so nice to see mud slinging in politics, that is the way it should be.

And as for the "official opposition", don't even get me started on their absolute lack of commentry on the removal of Mbeki before his term. The ANC is running around like headless chickens and they have lost their way, where is the opposition standing up and taking advantage of the situation to steal the votes, nope, nothing, not a peep. If I were opposition to the ANC I would be rubbing salt into the wounds, starting rumours and just generally trying to ruffle the feathers of the ANC, at least Terror is standing up and saying "Hang on guys, you don't just get rid of a president before his term is up cause you don't like him". Something is a miss in the ANC and he's the only one who's making a scene.
 
CeeBee said:
Agreed! That goes for the sheep on all sides of the spectrum :)
My question is... if this new party is created, who have they got in mind for president???? Who's face will be on the ballot paper, and lead them?
Not dear Thabo I hope. The ANC doesn't want him, and neither do the rest of us.
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My money is on Shilowa. He has the credentials of running Gauteng, and he seems pro the idea of a new party.
 
Well, the assumption the the ANC will lose 40% is grossly unrealistic. The entire voting public knows (in the townships and rural places) who and what the ANC is, whereas Shilowa and Co's new party will have less than 5 months to get together a campaign to win over staunch ANC supporters' votes. When most of the country's population barely has access to anything but the ANC's propaganda mouthpiece (i.e., the SABC), a campaign to wrestle votes away from the ANC becomes almost insurmountable.

It's good that there is division and a new party is entering the fray, but 40% is overly ambitious and totally unrealistic. That said, it's going to be an interesting election nonetheless, as the disgruntled ANC voters will likely abstain rather than voting on another party.

It's really bizarre, but in the rural towns and city townships, it's amazing how many people don't really know who Helen Zille is. Driving around informal settlements in the free state it's clear that the ANC is king - people still wear Mandela T-Shirts. There's still old "Vote ANC" posters on cafe windows and some lampposts. These people don't know anything except the ANC. As long as they keep believing the ANC keeps them free, they will vote ANC.
 
kingmonty said:
Well, the assumption the the ANC will lose 40% is grossly unrealistic. The entire voting public knows (in the townships and rural places) who and what the ANC is, whereas Shilowa and Co's new party will have less than 5 months to get together a campaign to win over staunch ANC supporters' votes. When most of the country's population barely has access to anything but the ANC's propaganda mouthpiece (i.e., the SABC), a campaign to wrestle votes away from the ANC becomes almost insurmountable.

It's good that there is division and a new party is entering the fray, but 40% is overly ambitious and totally unrealistic. That said, it's going to be an interesting election nonetheless, as the disgruntled ANC voters will likely abstain rather than voting on another party.

It's really bizarre, but in the rural towns and city townships, it's amazing how many people don't really know who Helen Zille is. Driving around informal settlements in the free state it's clear that the ANC is king - people still wear Mandela T-Shirts. There's still old "Vote ANC" posters on cafe windows and some lampposts. These people don't know anything except the ANC. As long as they keep believing the ANC keeps them free, they will vote ANC.
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what I was saying was that the ANC would lose 20% of there votes to the new party and the new party would combine with others to form a stronger opposition, a 40% loss would never be possible.

Your comment about the free state and helen zille is 100% spot on, how can these people use the slogan that they are the official opposition when they don't make any effort to oppose or try to gather more votes. If I were personally in charge of the "opposition" I would be going into the townships and speaking to these people, telling them that the ANC has not delivered on their promises, I would also learn at least two of the local languages so that you can appeal to the masses in a language they understand.
 
kingmonty said:
It's really bizarre, but in the rural towns and city townships, it's amazing how many people don't really know who Helen Zille is. Driving around informal settlements in the free state it's clear that the ANC is king - people still wear Mandela T-Shirts. There's still old "Vote ANC" posters on cafe windows and some lampposts. These people don't know anything except the ANC. As long as they keep believing the ANC keeps them free, they will vote ANC.
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If DA wants to increase voters, DA will need to campaign massively.
 
How far will the ANC go... thats the question.
How close could we come to a situation such as Zims...
Will ANC relinquish power graciously or will they put up a fight?
Im hoping not the latter, but going by the comments from the MK not so long ago, they are ready to fight for Zumas power. This is a scary thought - i really hope this country doesnt spiral into violence.
 
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