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There is quite a bit of confusion going on regarding the price changes Telkom announced today. Some people are convinced that these changes will not go ahead in August, other are annoyed and ask why the changes can't be implemented immediately, and yet still others are predicting future random price hikes to counterbalance the 'decreases' announced today. This thread will explain how prices are determined, who has what power, and when and how they can use that power.
So here goes.....
There are four players here who, at various levels, lawfully have some kind of power over Telkom's prices.
1) The public. The public may exercise their power by commenting on almost everything regarding Telkom's prices that is gazetted. Practically, there are two arena's in which this happens. Firstly it happens when the Price Cap Regime is constructed. Secondly it happens when ICASA does investigations, as they are doing now with Telkom's ADSL service.
2) ICASA. ICASA has the power to initiate hearings about any of Telkom's services or pricing of such services. They also have the power to reject any price increase that Telkom files, but only if such an increase falls outside what is allowed by the Price Cap regime.
3) The MoC. Poison Ivy is the person with the most power overall. She can direct ICASA to do anything she wants them to do, whether her directions fall within the law or not. Ivy's power is, in a sense, 'above' whatever laws are written on paper. Also, ANYTIME Telkom changes their prices for anything that is a 'regulated service', Ivy has to approve them before they become lawful.
4) Telkom. Telkom actually does not have that much power to increase prices of regulated services. They do, however, have great power to decrease prices of all or any services, although once again the minister must approve.
Here are some basics that govern Telkom and their prices.
In SA, as in most other countries who are in the process of liberalising the telecoms industry, the incumbent provider (Telkom) is forced to abide by certain rules and regulations concerning their prices. In SA, we have adopted the 'Price Cap' method of regulating Telkom's prices (as opposed to a 'Rate of Return on Investments' method).
The 'Price Cap Regime' is basically like the daddy of the laws. What the Price Cap regime does is it provides a set formula dictating maximum price increases of certain regulated services. Currently, the formula is CPI - 3,5%. CPI, or the Consumer Price Index, changes every year due to inflation etc, so every year the maximum price that Telkom can implement is different from the previous year (unless the CPI is exactly the same). The Price Cap regime also allows for upward price changes (to regulated services) to take place only ONCE every year (in August).
How this works is that once a year, around June, Telkom must propose to ICASA their new tariffs. ICASA can only reject them if they do not conform to the maximum prices allowed by the Price Cap regime. If Telkom's proposed new tariffs are all in line with this, then ICASA has no choice but to accept the changes and forward them on to the minister for her approval. The minister has the power to accept or reject whatever Telkom is proposing, but generally she just signs the proposed tariff changes without any fuss.
What all this means is that there are certain services for which the prices are controlled. These services are further catergorised into what is referred to as 'sub-baskets'. Now each service alone may or may not have a maximum increase allowed year-on-year.
For example, (if I am not mistaken) the price of local calls is subjected to a 5% cap - Telkom may not increase the price of local calls more then 5% in any year. Local calls, along with other services, further fall under something called the 'residential sub-basket' (there are other sub-baskets as well). I am not sure if my figures are correct, but I believe that the residential sub-basket is subject to a 10% (or 20% ?) cap. This means that, when all the little percentage increases and decreases are added up, overall the prices for the services in the residential sub-basket may not be increased more than 10% (or 20%, I forgot the exact figure).
To further complicate this, when all the price increases and decreases of all the services in all the baskets are added up, they may not exceed whatever is prescribed by the formula CPI - 3,5%.
Therefore, if the CPI for the previous year was an average of 3,3%, then when Telkom files their tariff changes (which they are required to do once a year), all the prices of all the services THAT FALL INTO A SUB-BASKET may not be increased by: 3,3% - 3,5% = -0,2%. Using this example, we can see that overall Telkom would be required to REDUCE their prices by AT LEAST 0,2%. (Conversely, if CPI was 3,7%, then Telkom would be required to NOT increase their prices by more than 0,2%).
To summarise: The current Price Cap regime came into force in June 2005. Telkom may only increase the prices of their regulated services once a year, and price changes have to be in line with sub-basket price caps as well as the overall Price Cap (CPI - 3,5%). Furthermore, the price changes that were announced today constitute Telkom's annual Price Cap regime filing. They are not a 'random' decrease.
Cara asked howcome then Telkom enforced two price changes in 2005, once in March and then again in August. This was allowed because the old Price Cap regime required new prices to take effect in March every year. So in March 2005, the usual price increases went ahead. But in June 2005, the old Price Cap regime was thrown out in favour of a new (and better) Price Cap regime. The new Price Cap regime changed the annual date for increases from March to August. Therefore, since the new regime came into effect in June, Telkom was allowed to change their prices again in August that year. (Take note that the fact that there had already been a price increase that year was taken into account and worked in to the CPI - 3,5% formula for that year only).
Other's then tried to tell me that what I was saying was bs because Telkom also changed their prices in November of 2005. The reason why the cost of BANDWIDTH went up (or down, depending on your point of view) is because bandwidth is NOT a regulated service. In other words, bandwidth is not a service that falls under the Price Cap regime. But, this being said, I strongly believe that, by implication of ADSL being regulated, bandwidth actually IS a regulated service and therefore DOES fall under price controls. However, that is a complicated argument and not one I will get into here.
Ok, so to address some of the other questions that have come up.....
What is to say that Telkom won't increase their adsl prices again in a few months?
This will not happen, as it will be illegal in terms of the laws. ADSL falls under regulated services, and therefore in order for Telkom to increase prices on this, the prices will firstly have to conform to the Price Cap regime. And secondly, to increase prices, they will have to wait until June next year, when they file their 2007 tariff changes, and even then any ADSL price increases will be constrained by the maximum's allowed under the Price Cap regime.
I think ICASA should reject these ADSL price changes because they are not good enough!
ICASA does not have the power to do this. When Telkom submits their annual tariff changes, the only time ICASA may reject them is if the changes do not conform to the Price Cap regime regulations- i.e if Telkom says that they want to increase prices by more than what the Price Cap regime allows. If Telkom wanted to suddenly offer free local calls, ICASA wouldn't have the power to reject this.
Typical of Telkom to only implement these changes in August. They should make them effective immediately!
Telkom does not have the power to do this.As explained extensively above,ICASA can only reject them if the new tariffs exceed the price caps allowed by the Price Cap regime.
Spineless ICASA! If they can't make Telkom decrease ADSL prices, then WTH is the point of this ICASA ADSL hearings? They can't reject Telkom's tariffs in any case, unless they exceed the PC regulations!
Wrong. ICASA has the power to, at any time of the year, investigate Telkom's services and Telkom's pricing for a specific service. This is what they are doing at the moment with the ICASA ADSL hearings. ICASA is empowered to make regulations that force Telkom to reduce their ADSL prices. But they cannot force ADSL prices down by using the annual Price Cap process. They have to use a different process. Also note that before any regulations that result from the ADSL hearings come into effect, the minister of communications is required to sign them. The minister is the ultimate authority, and she has the power to tell ICASA that proposed regulations are too harsh on Telkom. It is highly doubtful she will do this though.
Why isn't bandwidth a regulated service?
I think this is because ICASA had a hard enough time getting ADSL to be a regulated service, as well as ICASA lacked understanding on how much of an effect the price of bandwidth has on the end-user (not to mention the ISP industry). However, as I said earlier, I do think that an argument could be made that bandwidth is included implicitly in the residential sub-basket. At the moment gov is trying to take back control of the SAT3 cable. Telkom is fighting tooth and nail against this happening. Telkom told government to F*off when gov asked for the SAT3 shareholder's agreement. To my knowledge, Telkom has still not provided gov with this. From what I undrestand, Telkom doesn't own SAT3, they were merely appointed as 'guardians' of SAT3. But they have been 'guardians' for so long now that they have forgotten that they don't own it, or any part of it. Correct me if I am wrong here!
Ok, got it?
So here goes.....
There are four players here who, at various levels, lawfully have some kind of power over Telkom's prices.
1) The public. The public may exercise their power by commenting on almost everything regarding Telkom's prices that is gazetted. Practically, there are two arena's in which this happens. Firstly it happens when the Price Cap Regime is constructed. Secondly it happens when ICASA does investigations, as they are doing now with Telkom's ADSL service.
2) ICASA. ICASA has the power to initiate hearings about any of Telkom's services or pricing of such services. They also have the power to reject any price increase that Telkom files, but only if such an increase falls outside what is allowed by the Price Cap regime.
3) The MoC. Poison Ivy is the person with the most power overall. She can direct ICASA to do anything she wants them to do, whether her directions fall within the law or not. Ivy's power is, in a sense, 'above' whatever laws are written on paper. Also, ANYTIME Telkom changes their prices for anything that is a 'regulated service', Ivy has to approve them before they become lawful.
4) Telkom. Telkom actually does not have that much power to increase prices of regulated services. They do, however, have great power to decrease prices of all or any services, although once again the minister must approve.
Here are some basics that govern Telkom and their prices.
In SA, as in most other countries who are in the process of liberalising the telecoms industry, the incumbent provider (Telkom) is forced to abide by certain rules and regulations concerning their prices. In SA, we have adopted the 'Price Cap' method of regulating Telkom's prices (as opposed to a 'Rate of Return on Investments' method).
The 'Price Cap Regime' is basically like the daddy of the laws. What the Price Cap regime does is it provides a set formula dictating maximum price increases of certain regulated services. Currently, the formula is CPI - 3,5%. CPI, or the Consumer Price Index, changes every year due to inflation etc, so every year the maximum price that Telkom can implement is different from the previous year (unless the CPI is exactly the same). The Price Cap regime also allows for upward price changes (to regulated services) to take place only ONCE every year (in August).
How this works is that once a year, around June, Telkom must propose to ICASA their new tariffs. ICASA can only reject them if they do not conform to the maximum prices allowed by the Price Cap regime. If Telkom's proposed new tariffs are all in line with this, then ICASA has no choice but to accept the changes and forward them on to the minister for her approval. The minister has the power to accept or reject whatever Telkom is proposing, but generally she just signs the proposed tariff changes without any fuss.
What all this means is that there are certain services for which the prices are controlled. These services are further catergorised into what is referred to as 'sub-baskets'. Now each service alone may or may not have a maximum increase allowed year-on-year.
For example, (if I am not mistaken) the price of local calls is subjected to a 5% cap - Telkom may not increase the price of local calls more then 5% in any year. Local calls, along with other services, further fall under something called the 'residential sub-basket' (there are other sub-baskets as well). I am not sure if my figures are correct, but I believe that the residential sub-basket is subject to a 10% (or 20% ?) cap. This means that, when all the little percentage increases and decreases are added up, overall the prices for the services in the residential sub-basket may not be increased more than 10% (or 20%, I forgot the exact figure).
To further complicate this, when all the price increases and decreases of all the services in all the baskets are added up, they may not exceed whatever is prescribed by the formula CPI - 3,5%.
Therefore, if the CPI for the previous year was an average of 3,3%, then when Telkom files their tariff changes (which they are required to do once a year), all the prices of all the services THAT FALL INTO A SUB-BASKET may not be increased by: 3,3% - 3,5% = -0,2%. Using this example, we can see that overall Telkom would be required to REDUCE their prices by AT LEAST 0,2%. (Conversely, if CPI was 3,7%, then Telkom would be required to NOT increase their prices by more than 0,2%).
To summarise: The current Price Cap regime came into force in June 2005. Telkom may only increase the prices of their regulated services once a year, and price changes have to be in line with sub-basket price caps as well as the overall Price Cap (CPI - 3,5%). Furthermore, the price changes that were announced today constitute Telkom's annual Price Cap regime filing. They are not a 'random' decrease.
Cara asked howcome then Telkom enforced two price changes in 2005, once in March and then again in August. This was allowed because the old Price Cap regime required new prices to take effect in March every year. So in March 2005, the usual price increases went ahead. But in June 2005, the old Price Cap regime was thrown out in favour of a new (and better) Price Cap regime. The new Price Cap regime changed the annual date for increases from March to August. Therefore, since the new regime came into effect in June, Telkom was allowed to change their prices again in August that year. (Take note that the fact that there had already been a price increase that year was taken into account and worked in to the CPI - 3,5% formula for that year only).
Other's then tried to tell me that what I was saying was bs because Telkom also changed their prices in November of 2005. The reason why the cost of BANDWIDTH went up (or down, depending on your point of view) is because bandwidth is NOT a regulated service. In other words, bandwidth is not a service that falls under the Price Cap regime. But, this being said, I strongly believe that, by implication of ADSL being regulated, bandwidth actually IS a regulated service and therefore DOES fall under price controls. However, that is a complicated argument and not one I will get into here.
Ok, so to address some of the other questions that have come up.....
What is to say that Telkom won't increase their adsl prices again in a few months?
This will not happen, as it will be illegal in terms of the laws. ADSL falls under regulated services, and therefore in order for Telkom to increase prices on this, the prices will firstly have to conform to the Price Cap regime. And secondly, to increase prices, they will have to wait until June next year, when they file their 2007 tariff changes, and even then any ADSL price increases will be constrained by the maximum's allowed under the Price Cap regime.
I think ICASA should reject these ADSL price changes because they are not good enough!
ICASA does not have the power to do this. When Telkom submits their annual tariff changes, the only time ICASA may reject them is if the changes do not conform to the Price Cap regime regulations- i.e if Telkom says that they want to increase prices by more than what the Price Cap regime allows. If Telkom wanted to suddenly offer free local calls, ICASA wouldn't have the power to reject this.
Typical of Telkom to only implement these changes in August. They should make them effective immediately!
Telkom does not have the power to do this.As explained extensively above,ICASA can only reject them if the new tariffs exceed the price caps allowed by the Price Cap regime.
Spineless ICASA! If they can't make Telkom decrease ADSL prices, then WTH is the point of this ICASA ADSL hearings? They can't reject Telkom's tariffs in any case, unless they exceed the PC regulations!
Wrong. ICASA has the power to, at any time of the year, investigate Telkom's services and Telkom's pricing for a specific service. This is what they are doing at the moment with the ICASA ADSL hearings. ICASA is empowered to make regulations that force Telkom to reduce their ADSL prices. But they cannot force ADSL prices down by using the annual Price Cap process. They have to use a different process. Also note that before any regulations that result from the ADSL hearings come into effect, the minister of communications is required to sign them. The minister is the ultimate authority, and she has the power to tell ICASA that proposed regulations are too harsh on Telkom. It is highly doubtful she will do this though.
Why isn't bandwidth a regulated service?
I think this is because ICASA had a hard enough time getting ADSL to be a regulated service, as well as ICASA lacked understanding on how much of an effect the price of bandwidth has on the end-user (not to mention the ISP industry). However, as I said earlier, I do think that an argument could be made that bandwidth is included implicitly in the residential sub-basket. At the moment gov is trying to take back control of the SAT3 cable. Telkom is fighting tooth and nail against this happening. Telkom told government to F*off when gov asked for the SAT3 shareholder's agreement. To my knowledge, Telkom has still not provided gov with this. From what I undrestand, Telkom doesn't own SAT3, they were merely appointed as 'guardians' of SAT3. But they have been 'guardians' for so long now that they have forgotten that they don't own it, or any part of it. Correct me if I am wrong here!
Ok, got it?
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