India-Pakistan war thread

[JuliusSeizure]

This seems to be one of the ongoing wars like Israel/Palestine with no end in sight.

Pakistan Ups the Ante With India on Terrorism

But will it succeed in persuading the world that India is a perpetrator of terrorism in the region rather than a victim?

thediplomat.com

 

[Gordon_R]

India and China also have a decades long ongoing border conflict:

India-China dispute: Shadow of 60-year-old war at border flashpoint

The brief and bloody 1962 conflict looms large in Arunachal Pradesh, scene of the latest flare-up.

www.bbc.com

 

[RunningFromFat]

The only war I wanna see is on the cricket pitch

 

[3WA]

The only war I wanna see is on the cricket pitch

Afridi > Bumrah

 

[Polymathic]

What India Pakistan war?

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Interesting read. It does look like Britain deliberately flared up mistrust between the Hindus and Muslims in the region to further its own interests in the region.

The Mutual Genocide of Indian Partition

It displaced fifteen million people and killed more than a million. How did it happen?

www.newyorker.com

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Interesting read. It does look like Britain deliberately flared up mistrust between the Hindus and Muslims in the region to further its own interests in the region.

The Mutual Genocide of Indian Partition

It displaced fifteen million people and killed more than a million. How did it happen?

www.newyorker.com

Actually, Britain was a stabilising power. You don't need anyone to rile mistrust between the Hindus and Muslims. Which is why partition happened after the British left.

But your natural anti colonial bias is to be expected and anyone can find a reference somewhere on the internet to support their bias. How about interpreting the real history instead and then commenting?

From your reference:

n August, 1947, when, after three hundred years in India, the British finally left, the subcontinent was partitioned into two independent nation states: Hindu-majority India and Muslim-majority Pakistan. Immediately, there began one of the greatest migrations in human history, as millions of Muslims trekked to West and East Pakistan (the latter now known as Bangladesh) while millions of Hindus and Sikhs headed in the opposite direction. Many hundreds of thousands never made it.

And the genocide was after the British left:

Across the Indian subcontinent, communities that had coexisted for almost a millennium attacked each other in a terrifying outbreak of sectarian violence, with Hindus and Sikhs on one side and Muslims on the other—a mutual genocide as unexpected as it was unprecedented.

 

[Polymathic]

Interesting read. It does look like Britain deliberately flared up mistrust between the Hindus and Muslims in the region to further its own interests in the region.

The Mutual Genocide of Indian Partition

It displaced fifteen million people and killed more than a million. How did it happen?

www.newyorker.com

Yeah, and it was the British's fault for the genocide of the Bengalis of East Pakistan by the Pakistani military.

The "Indians" wanted a united secular sub-continent and it was those who lobbied for Pakistan that wanted a state for Muslims. This naturally led to mistrust between the Muslims and other religious groups.

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Actually, Britain was a stabilising power. You don't need anyone to rile mistrust between the Hindus and Muslims. Which is why partition happened after the British left.

But your natural anti colonial bias is to be expected and anyone can find a reference somewhere on the internet to support their bias. How about interpreting the real history instead and then commenting?

From your reference:

n August, 1947, when, after three hundred years in India, the British finally left, the subcontinent was partitioned into two independent nation states: Hindu-majority India and Muslim-majority Pakistan. Immediately, there began one of the greatest migrations in human history, as millions of Muslims trekked to West and East Pakistan (the latter now known as Bangladesh) while millions of Hindus and Sikhs headed in the opposite direction. Many hundreds of thousands never made it.

And the genocide was after the British left:

Across the Indian subcontinent, communities that had coexisted for almost a millennium attacked each other in a terrifying outbreak of sectarian violence, with Hindus and Sikhs on one side and Muslims on the other—a mutual genocide as unexpected as it was unprecedented.

So exactly the same as Uki and Russia

 

[ToxicBunny]

So exactly the same as Uki and Russia

*pats on the head*

 

[Cosmik Debris]

So exactly the same as Uki and Russia

Who was the stabilising power for Uki and Ruski?

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Who was the stabilising power for Uki and Ruski?

The British

 

[Bard8]

More likely that there is war between Pakistan and the Taliban

 

[Cosmik Debris]

The British

Reference for that please?

 

[sefeddt]

I prefer the India/China conflict. They apparently use traditional sticks and stones against each other.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1602732261748920320

 

[Fulcrum29]

It is that time, again.

 

[Fulcrum29]

I was observing these events since the Pahalgam attack, though this does seem to be escalating, and rapid escalation could be possible.

 

[Alexander the Straight]

Certainly seems to be heading that way. Pakistans stock market is crashing, never knew they had one. Unless it's a livestock market

 

[FiestaST]

2022, A somewhat simpler time.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Certainly seems to be heading that way. Pakistans stock market is crashing, never knew they had one. Unless it's a livestock market

India is getting some Western backing. Though Pakistan being directly involved in the attack is an allegation. This is a building block on an old dispute. India is going with Pakistan being indirectly involved...

Given the current situation, a military response would be a blitz.

For those who don't know:

2025 Pahalgam attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

To quote:

Government response​

Indian prime minister Narendra Modi cut short his visit to Saudi Arabia and returned to India to chair a meeting on the issue. Union home minister Amit Shah travelled to Srinagar to assess the situation and coordinate the security response, and later traveled to the site of the attack. On 23 April, the Indian Army gave limited clearance for the operation of the grounded HAL Dhruv for counter-terrorism operations.

On the night of 23 April, the Indian foreign secretary Vikram Misri held a special press briefing after a meeting with the Cabinet Committee on Security. He announced India's decision to temporarily suspend the Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan with immediate effect until Pakistan ceases its support for cross-border terrorism. He further announced the closure of the integrated check post at Attari–Wagah Border, a travel ban for all Pakistani nationals to India under the SAARC Visa Exemption Scheme, and cancellation of all previously issued visas. Additionally, Pakistani military advisers at the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi were expelled, while their Indian counterparts in Islamabad were withdrawn, and the staff strength of the Indian High Commission in Islamabad was reduced from 55 to a minimum of 30. The posts of such military advisors were deemed abolished.

International reactions​

The attack drew condemnations and statements of condolences to the victims from several other countries including Iran, Israel, Italy, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, the United States, and India's neighbours including Bangladesh, Bhutan, China and Sri Lanka. The United Nations and the European Union also issued similar statements.

Pakistan's Foreign Ministry expressed condolences to the families of the victims, and its defence minister Khawaja Asif dismissed the allegations of his country's involvement in the attack and stated "This is all home-grown, there are revolutions in different so-called states against India, not one, not two, but dozens, from Nagaland to Kashmir, in the south, in Chattisgarh, in Manipur. In all these places, there are revolutions against the Indian government."

Pakistan also warned India of a comprehensive retaliation in response to the actions announced by the Indian government in the aftermath of the incident. On 24 April, Pakistan suspended visas issued to Indian nationals and closed its airspace to Indian aircraft. An Indian Border Security Force soldier belonging to the 182nd battalion of the BSF was captured by Pakistan Rangers after he accidentally entered Pakistani held territory at the Ferozepur border.