Intel's comeback begins

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Hanno Labuschagne

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Intel's comeback begins

Intel Corp. surged in late trading after predicting a return to sales growth in the fourth quarter, fueled by an improving personal computer market and a more competitive product line.

Sales in the period will be $14.6 billion to $15.6 billion, Intel said in a statement Thursday, compared with an average analyst estimate of $14.4 billion.

[Bloomberg]
 
I am not sure where any negativity surrounding Intel derived from. It was never going to go anywhere in any event. The company is here to stay for ever in future and there is no changing it. It may be sold, it may be nationalized by a government, it may even delist on stock exchanges, but it will still be there doing what it does best.
 
rvZA said:
I am not sure where any negativity surrounding Intel derived from. It was never going to go anywhere in any event. The company is here to stay for ever in future and there is no changing it. It may be sold, it may be nationalized by a government, it may even delist on stock exchanges, but it will still be there doing what it does best.
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People used to say the same thing about IBM.

For many years under control of the "stakeholder value" CEOs, they under invested in products. It's taking them almost 10 years to catch up now.

In most areas of the server market, people are only buying Intel, because AMD and Nvidia have sold all their stock.
 
Sapphiron said:
People used to say the same thing about IBM.

For many years under control of the "stakeholder value" CEOs, they under invested in products. It's taking them almost 10 years to catch up now.

In most areas of the server market, people are only buying Intel, because AMD and Nvidia have sold all their stock.
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I don’t know about that. Saphire Rapids is an incredible CPU for math heavy, tightly coupled multithreaded applications.
 
rvZA said:
doing what it does best.
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Falling asleep while the competition eats its lunch?

AMD and Apple have taken turns beating them. NVidia and Qualcomm are gearing up to take a shot next.

They’re betting heavily on their fabrication business, but Samsung and TSMC are not going to be pushovers.
 
Focus some energy on ARC, you nitwits!
Sleeping at the wheel.
 
cguy said:
Well, none of those are math heavy or tightly coupled multithreaded applications. If you want to compile fast it’s great though - mostly benefitting from the big L3.
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Feel free to find some review examples
 
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Yeah Intel was ahead in certain niche things like AVX-512 that afaik regular users don’t benefit from. That’s something I would be out of my depth discussing but would be keen to learn more about.
 
NikeXT said:
Yeah Intel was ahead in certain niche things like AVX-512 that afaik regular users don’t benefit from. That’s something I would be out of my depth discussing but would be keen to learn more about.
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The big thing that Intel did for most of their Xeon range is provide 2 AVX512 ALUs per core. AMD was later to the party with AVX512 support, and when they finally did it, they only had 1 512 bit ALU. This really helps for certain types of processing (neural networks, physics, or more generally, any wide linear algebra problems). It doesn't help at all for some problems (those without certain types of parallelism), which is when the larger L3 and higher core count of the AMD cores tends to win out.
 
cguy said:
The big thing that Intel did for most of their Xeon range is provide 2 AVX512 ALUs per core. AMD was later to the party with AVX512 support, and when they finally did it, they only had 1 512 bit ALU. This really helps for certain types of processing (neural networks, physics, or more generally, any wide linear algebra problems). It doesn't help at all for some problems (those without certain types of parallelism), which is when the larger L3 and higher core count of the AMD cores tends to win out.
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It's really depends on what you buy your servers for these days. Your software determines what hardware is best.

AMD does best in general purpose servers, like virtualization environments, web and database servers.

Intel's advantage comes in with the single purpose workloads that are designed to make use of the accelerators ok the CPU.
 
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