Internet Protocol Version 8 (IPv8)

quovadis said:
A transition that was estimated to be completed in the mid 2000s if memory serves and at this rate at least another 20 years unless IPv4 is retired which imho would be unlikely.
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It has a 30year headstart over any other pretender, like this IPV8 proposal. IPv6 migration will be at 99% in 20 years time and another wishlist IPV8 proposal will not have gotten off the ground properly. I don't think anyone has the stomach to go through this change again. Promising backward compatibility is being like a populist politician promising jobs and cars and free medical for all. It ain't gonna happen. With a little help from Google, Amazon, cloudflare etc. starting to deploy ipv6 only CDN's and youtube caches etc. people will be moving by themselves. The benefits are there for the big players, and you'll want to follow.
 
By the way, have you seen France is at 85%, Germany at 75%, India at 71%, America and Japan at 55%. Do you really think they are going to go back to IPV4 and try a pie in the sky new IPv8? Nee meneer, dink weer.
 
Gimli_ said:
By the way, have you seen France is at 85%, Germany at 75%, India at 71%, America and Japan at 55%. Do you really think they are going to go back to IPV4 and try a pie in the sky new IPv8? Nee meneer, dink weer.
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Who said anything about going back to ipv4?
 
Gimli_ said:
It has a 30year headstart over any other pretender, like this IPV8 proposal. IPv6 migration will be at 99% in 20 years time and another wishlist IPV8 proposal will not have gotten off the ground properly. I don't think anyone has the stomach to go through this change again. Promising backward compatibility is being like a populist politician promising jobs and cars and free medical for all. It ain't gonna happen. With a little help from Google, Amazon, cloudflare etc. starting to deploy ipv6 only CDN's and youtube caches etc. people will be moving by themselves. The benefits are there for the big players, and you'll want to follow.
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IPv6 having a 30-year head start is precisely the problem, not the defence. After three decades, we still need dual-stack, CGNAT, NAT64, DNS64, 464XLAT, tunnels, translation layers and endless workarounds just to keep the internet functioning acrosss two incompatible worlds.

That is not a clean migration - it’s sunk cost infrastructure and backward compatibility is not a populist fantasy it is one of the most basic principles of infrastructure replacement.

Yes - Google, Amazon, Cloudflare and the other big players/carriees can push IPv6-only islands, caches and CDNs but that also proves the point: adoption is increasingly being driven by the largest centralized players who can absorb the complexity and shape the network around themselves. Smaller operators are left dealing with the operational mess.

So no, I’m not betting that IPv8 appears tomorrow and magically replaces IPv6. I’m saying IPv6’s greatest vulnerability is that its migratiom strategy was so painful, so slow and so dependent on workaround architecture that the internet may eventually route around it in ways we do not yet expect.
 
A device connecting to an IPv8 network sends one DHCP8 Discover and receives one response containing every service endpoint it requires.
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and then later on it states that literally every packet has to go through oauth lol.

This is a joke spec.

IPv6 is fine, just have to deal with hexadecimals instead, doesn't really matter for near anyone and solves a lot of problems like double NAT.
 
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