iPhone 13 discussions

[SauRoNZA]

This keyboard has a learning curve though. I’m getting there I think. The battery life on this thing makes no sense. Has Apple miniaturised a fusion drive or something…

As in dictionary wise? Because yeah if you are doing multi language with something unsupported like Afrikaans it takes quite a while.

I would recommend sticking to it before going for a third party (since it forces you back to the iOS default for many things) and seeing how you find it in a month.

Most iPhone users have been on the same dictionary for years if they’ve migrated from one phone to another so have no idea why people complain about the new user experience.

Also, bizarrely iOS keyboard is the only one who works properly with a left handed user. Don’t ask me how or why, there must be something in the patterns of fail that it helps correct but I literally can’t manage on any other keyboard when going south paw.

 

[Foxhound5366]

Cash is a much nicer option.

Is it really? Then you still have to pay for data and airtime, and when I last did the maths, the service providers are clearly subsidising the cost of contract phones through airtime and data because you can't get even close to the combined value for the same cash.

 

[bwana]

I will however fight the temptation when Vodacom call me and tell them to shove their contract……..I think…..I hope……I trust I will have the strength. Pray for me!

Good plan - no reason I can think of to upgrade from the 11 right now. Go prepaid now, save some money, and see if the 14 changes your mind.

 

[CranialBlaze]

Is it really? Then you still have to pay for data and airtime, and when I last did the maths, the service providers are clearly subsidising the cost of contract phones through airtime and data because you can't get even close to the combined value for the same cash.

Not so much anymore, I looked into getting a contract 2 years ago and over 24 months the cost was more than the phone and the included “free” stuff by a decent margin.

They used to heavily subsidize, but these days you pay for a contract and basically HP the phone.

I am with MTN via Afrihost and buy maybe R200 airtime a year and my first 2GB of data is free every month and most months I don’t even finish it. If I need to top up it’s R30/gb.

Over the 2 year life of my phone running coats are probably like R600/700.

If you on the R1000+ business contracts and make use of them then sure you come out ahead, but the baseline every day contracts will cost most people more.

 

[CranialBlaze]

Dupe…

 

[bwana]

Dupe…

You don't need to say dupe - you can just delete those that are surplus to requirements.

 

[CranialBlaze]

You don't need to say dupe - you can just delete those that are surplus to requirements.

Only had an edit, not a delete option for the double post.

 

[bwana]

Only had an edit, not a delete option for the double post.

Odd - in your browser?

 

[Foxhound5366]

Not so much anymore, I looked into getting a contract 2 years ago and over 24 months the cost was more than the phone and the included “free” stuff by a decent margin.

They used to heavily subsidize, but these days you pay for a contract and basically HP the phone.

I am with MTN via Afrihost and buy maybe R200 airtime a year and my first 2GB of data is free every month and most months I don’t even finish it. If I need to top up it’s R30/gb.

Over the 2 year life of my phone running coats are probably like R600/700.

If you on the R1000+ business contracts and make use of them then sure you come out ahead, but the baseline every day contracts will cost most people more.

Here's my Vodacom invoice. I don't know why, but they're throwing discounts at me. 90% discounted bundles on minutes AND data ... hard to argue with this. I guess it's all part of a retention scheme.

 

[CranialBlaze]

Here's my Vodacom invoice. I don't know why, but they're throwing discounts at me. 90% discounted bundles on minutes AND data ... hard to argue with this. I guess it's all part of a retention scheme.
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Hard to argue with a score, I don’t like contracts but at 32k for a phone you take a look before tossing down that much cash and yeah for a new contract, the bundles where crap and the costing ludacris.

I had one of those BF contracts that cost me like R200/month with I think R300 or so airtime with the Nokia 8, which was a steal, when that was about to end I looked at the OnePlus something, Vodacom had it at 16k cash and the cheapest per month worked out to 28k over 3 years and the cheapest over 2 years worked out to 24k.

 

[FiestaST]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1503085423761010690

 

[bwana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1503085423761010690

Good, maybe great, hardware, crappy software.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Is it really? Then you still have to pay for data and airtime, and when I last did the maths, the service providers are clearly subsidising the cost of contract phones through airtime and data because you can't get even close to the combined value for the same cash.

Device cost is identical...in some cases more expensive even for lack of special prices but is of course spread over time.

Issue is you have to do business with all the scum that are service providers and if anything ever goes wrong you can't fight them.

You don't even get a copy of the contract you agree to from my experience and then have no leg to stand on later.

And a Topup Contract is really just like Prepaid, so not much difference there other than being locked in.

Contracts with free minutes never made sense to me as I always pay for more than I actually use.

 

[Bryn]

As in dictionary wise? Because yeah if you are doing multi language with something unsupported like Afrikaans it takes quite a while.

I would recommend sticking to it before going for a third party (since it forces you back to the iOS default for many things) and seeing how you find it in a month.

Most iPhone users have been on the same dictionary for years if they’ve migrated from one phone to another so have no idea why people complain about the new user experience.

Also, bizarrely iOS keyboard is the only one who works properly with a left handed user. Don’t ask me how or why, there must be something in the patterns of fail that it helps correct but I literally can’t manage on any other keyboard when going south paw.

No, more with the layout of the special characters, the punctuation auto spacing (or lack thereof) etc. Nothing major. I’m already some way there in getting used to how Apple clearly intends the mobile typing experience to be.

 

[CranialBlaze]

No, more with the layout of the special characters, the punctuation auto spacing (or lack thereof) etc. Nothing major. I’m already some way there in getting used to how Apple clearly intends the mobile typing experience to be.

Funny enough, as much as I hate Apple, from back when I had the 3GS, the one thing that annoyed me for all those years was how much better Apples keyboard was, at least for me.

That was the thing I liked the most when going back with the 11.

Really liked Swiftkey, was the best of the lot, but apples somehow feels more right

 

[SauRoNZA]

No, more with the layout of the special characters, the punctuation auto spacing (or lack thereof) etc. Nothing major. I’m already some way there in getting used to how Apple clearly intends the mobile typing experience to be.

Aah yes I can imagine that takes a bit of getting used to.

You know about double tapping space for a full stop?

 

[Bryn]

Aah yes I can imagine that takes a bit of getting used to.

You know about double tapping space for a full stop?

Yeah, would go nuts without it. Would be nice if commas also auto-spaced.

Whilst notifications in general are outstanding on iPhone, the default Mail app seems to not do anything in the background. If I open it, it will update my 3x Google accounts (2 work, 1 personal), but it seems unable to do that on its own and show me notifications. Pretty annoying. It isn't even listed in the Background Refresh list so not sure what I could have misconfigured.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Yeah, would go nuts without it. Would be nice if commas also auto-spaced.

Whilst notifications in general are outstanding on iPhone, the default Mail app seems to not do anything in the background. If I open it, it will update my 3x Google accounts (2 work, 1 personal), but it seems unable to do that on its own and show me notifications. Pretty annoying. It isn't even listed in the Background Refresh list so not sure what I could have misconfigured.

Settings > Mail > Accounts

Fetch New Data

Needs to be set to Push and for good measure Automatically as well at the bottom and then enables per account that supports it.

I haven’t used it for years though as I prefer to have a bit less pressure in my life.

 

[CranialBlaze]

Yeah, would go nuts without it. Would be nice if commas also auto-spaced.

Whilst notifications in general are outstanding on iPhone, the default Mail app seems to not do anything in the background. If I open it, it will update my 3x Google accounts (2 work, 1 personal), but it seems unable to do that on its own and show me notifications. Pretty annoying. It isn't even listed in the Background Refresh list so not sure what I could have misconfigured.

Apple does not bother to implement the required workarounds for push mail to work with gmail within 3rd party apps.

So unless you enable polling, it never will.

Personally googles spam and shot started bothering my so I started moving away some time back and then when apple started allowing custom domains for mail along with HideMy, I started shifting it towards their, so the few mails I still get with GMail are auto forwarded to my iCloud mail.

Right now very few sites have my “real” email address.

 

[Bryn]

Settings > Mail > Accounts

Fetch New Data

Needs to be set to Push and for good measure Automatically as well at the bottom and then enables per account that supports it.

I haven’t used it for years though as I prefer to have a bit less pressure in my life.

Push was already enabled for everything. I’ve set automatic updates to every 15 minutes. Maybe that will improve things.