iPhone 5

Crowley said:
Honest question now. Why do you choose the iphone above the One X or the SGS3? Is it because it is made by apple or is there some other reason? (Not being funny now, just really want to know)
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iOS is more thoughtfully designed than Android and has cooler apps.
 
Synaesthesia said:
Ad-hominem attack, hey? Come on, you can do better than that surely?
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Well your statement sounded like one of a fanboy. Just so you know that I am not biased towards Android, I am posting this from my iPad and I can assure you it is the most frustrating piece of tech I have ever owned. I absolutely hate iOS, Safari is a very irritating browser, every now and again an app just crashes and closes, that YouTube app should ****ing die....and Android is not much better.

So back to my off topic point: your post really was one of the dumbest things I've read all day. Now get over it, tomorrow is round 2.

/off topic
 
I dig the Youtube app, only problem is the comments aren't ranked by rating, but time.

Safari can crash, especially on iPad 1 and with complex pages, but I still find it to be way ahead of Android browser. Although I've yet to use Chrome on Android.

I've tried Android, it's just not as thoughtfully designed as iOS, nor does it have as good apps. If you think that's stupid, fine. It's just my opinion.

If I had to sink to your level, I'd argue that this is the stupidest thing I've read today:
I am posting this from my iPad and I can assure you it is the most frustrating piece of tech I have ever owned.
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If you hate your iPad so much, why are you posting from it?
 
Crowley said:
Honest question now. Why do you choose the iphone above the One X or the SGS3? Is it because it is made by apple or is there some other reason? (Not being funny now, just really want to know)
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I still owe you an answer.

There's no simple answer. I've played with a few Android phones and I liked them. I do prefer the more solid feel of an iphone vs the SGII for instance, just feels more like quality. I actually just like the Apple brand - but it comes from years of using ipods, lately ipads and then my iphone. The products look good and they work. I'm nearing my forties - I don't care for tinkering anymore - and I don't mind paying a premium if I like something. Open source, open system? Meh.

Once you start building a "mobile slash entertainment environment" (for lack of better term) there has to be a very compelling reason to deviate from that - I currently have ipods and docks all over the house, airport express to speakers in braai room, AppleTV front-end to server and ipad - the ipone just slots in perfectly. And everything just works - Airplay, central itunes database, music sharing/rating/syncing etc. etc. etc.

I've also invested heavily in apps, many which are cross platform, but quite a few which are not. My interest in hardware specs has also waned, as long as it is "there or thereabouts". My smartphone usage is all about apps. So if I like the phone physically, happy with the OS and Android offers no compelling app advantage why would I move?

Sure, there are irritating little niggles, but which OS doesn't?

So in short, I'm not a fanboi enough to say I won't ever move to Android, but the advantage would have to be more than marginal. Even shorter, I just like my phone. :-)
 
Synaesthesia said:
If you hate your iPad so much, why are you posting from it?
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The reason for mine was that it was cheap - no other reason.

Although one reads reviews, the negatives are seldom mentioned ... And it was only when I got it did I realise just how average it is.

Camera from the 90s, buggy Newstand (I don't even bother downloading my paid for magazines), horrible email, horrible to load files onto the device, no FaceTime over cellular, no wifi hotspot, Flash IS an issue (although everyone says it , limitation on application file size, Mono sound ... Then the standard no memory card, USB port etc

Can I even save/add PDF files with this? I'm not even sure ... But most likely only with an app, workaround or hack

That said, it was cheap so I can't complain
 
Now I know the iPad isn't the end-all be-all device, but I've used the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and the interface was not that friendly. I couldn't figure out many functions on my own. The people with the Samsung wanted to get my iPad games and apps like Garageband, but to no avail.

PDF's are like the iPads strongest suit, don't know what you mean about that. It reads PDF's perfectly, when you open a PDF there's a button to save to iBooks.

Mono sound - I think it sounds amazing for the size, personally. I also don't have much issue with email on it.

Newstand does suck. Magazines suck. iTunes, well I like it, but it sucks a LOT on Windows.

Anyway, tablets do have a long way to go, no doubt. I guess it depends on your level of expectation.
 
The iPad 'interface' is more of an app launcher - a single screen with each icon loaded for an app.

Regarding the PDF : yesterday I needed to send about 4 PDF files to a client. All 4 were in seperate emails. I want to send 1 mail with the 4 documents as opposed to forwarding the seperate mails.

Do I save each to iBooks - and from there attach each PDF to a single mail?

Hope that makes more sense!

EDIT ; An attach button would be fantastic on the device. Press it and the camera roll, iBooks etc can pop up to easily attach what is needed. I needed to Google to learn how to attach a photo - and was horrified to learn I needed to copy/paste from the camera roll! There are plenty that needed to Google to relearn email becauswe its so illogical (especially for a 1st time Apple user using the 'ultimate' gadget)

I don't hate it - but after reviews and reading how fantastic this is, I was disappointed. Not to say its bad - just average
 
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1) Nobody really knows anything about the iPhone5 yet - when it will launch, what the specifications will be. There is no way to preorder and you can't second-guess Apple on this stuff, they lock it down pretty tightly.

2) In my view the next iPhone release will see a physical change to the hardware - maybe a different chassis, bigger screen, something to differentiate it immediately from the predecessor. Most rumours are pointing towards a bigger vertical screen with the same retina density and a new construction design.

3) If you are a fan of the iPhone in general, there is no reason at all to think that the next release will be disappointing. iPhone updates are pretty consistently rated the top of their class when they get refreshed, without fail. And whether you personally don't feel they warrant it, it's quite safe to assume that someone who does enjoy the iPhone will love whatever Apple has in store with v5. Some people just want a better version of the same thing, and Apple's track record in this regard is unassailable.
 
For me I'm waiting for the new iPhone because my current iPhone4 is waaay to similar to the iPhone 4s to get that. I'm also too heavily invested in apps to switch to android.

That and its probably going to be a beautiful phone.
 
If Apple are going to increase the screen size they should maintain the aspect ratio and keep the phone close to it's current size. The iPhone 4 is a nice solid compact size.

Why do you choose the iphone above the One X or the SGS3?
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When I heard about those two new Android phones I was very interested. Until I found out they would be more appropriately called mini-tablets. Even a colleague who is an Android fanatic has been complaining about the size of the One X. Then I heard there was a One S which is smaller, but that turned out to be 4.3", so still oversized.
 
noxibox said:
If Apple are going to increase the screen size they should maintain the aspect ratio and keep the phone close to it's current size. The iPhone 4 is a nice solid compact size.
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The problem is the maths of the screen dimensions is tricky if you keep the same 1:5:1 aspect ratio and the same retina display wrt the UI - like without expanding icons outwards or resizing them all how do you account for the extra space? The easiest way is just to add another horizontal row of icons and make it a 16:9 ratio.

When I heard about those two new Android phones I was very interested. Until I found out they would be more appropriately called mini-tablets. Even a colleague who is an Android fanatic has been complaining about the size of the One X. Then I heard there was a One S which is smaller, but that turned out to be 4.3", so still oversized.
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I agree. I'm happy with a 4" screen, bigger is too big. I have a Galaxy S and I reckon it's about the optimal screen size for me. The iPhone4 is nice because the screen is so crisp and fluid but it could be enlarged a bit still.
 
After having used screen sizes from between 2.5inch to 5,3inches on the note i really feel 4.3 inch would be a good size for the new iphone as its the best size for a primary phone imo as long as the device is thinner/shaped better hold it.

The current 4/4s design with a 4.3 inch screen would just be irritating to work with.But a thinner device shaped to hold that 4.3 inch screen works well in my experience.

Like for example the way I hold a gs2 allows me to reach the top left edge with the same amount of effort it takes me to reach the top left edge on my 4s.Yes the the design may suffer somewhat but usability of a 4.3 inch screen at the same levels that the 3.5 inch provides can definitely be easily achieved.
 
The thing is, most handset makers assume that people want a range of possible phone options so they provide a suite of phones to suit all the niches they can imagine. And increasing screen size is one way for them to designate the hierarchy of their lineup. Apple assumes that people want basically one thing, so they pour their energy into making that phone the best possible one they can. Then they make their older models fit into the cheaper buying spectrum.

Point being they are always walking a very fine line where any physical changes have to be painstakingly scrutinised in case they alienate a portion of their clientèle. It's unlikely that they would make a significantly bigger phone for this reason. There is just too much middle ground to be lost - ex-Blackberry using businessmen who aren't into the oneupmanship of 720p 4.7" screens for instance.
 
cerebus said:
The thing is, most handset makers assume that people want a range of possible phone options so they provide a suite of phones to suit all the niches they can imagine. And increasing screen size is one way for them to designate the hierarchy of their lineup. Apple assumes that people want basically one thing, so they pour their energy into making that phone the best possible one they can. Then they make their older models fit into the cheaper buying spectrum.

Point being they are always walking a very fine line where any physical changes have to be painstakingly scrutinised in case they alienate a portion of their clientèle. It's unlikely that they would make a significantly bigger phone for this reason. There is just too much middle ground to be lost - ex-Blackberry using businessmen who aren't into the oneupmanship of 720p 4.7" screens for instance.
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It is obvious that Apple have decided on a phone & market segment and they are sticking with it. Every other phone maker is now making phones to compete in that Apple defined market. I also wonder if they will ever go bigger screen.
 
cerebus said:
I agree. I'm happy with a 4" screen, bigger is too big. I have a Galaxy S and I reckon it's about the optimal screen size for me. The iPhone4 is nice because the screen is so crisp and fluid but it could be enlarged a bit still.
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Yes, 4" would be perfect IMO.
 
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