iPhone 5

R13... said:
It is obvious that Apple have decided on a phone & market segment and they are sticking with it. Every other phone maker is now making phones to compete in that Apple defined market. I also wonder if they will ever go bigger screen.
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Except that nobody else is actually competing in the same market. They're all still in the chuck-it-against-the-wall-and-see-if-it-sticks mode of strategic planning.
 
cerebus said:
Except that nobody else is actually competing in the same market. They're all still in the chuck-it-against-the-wall-and-see-if-it-sticks mode of strategic planning.
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Even Samsung? I don't think so, their displays are very good - they could do better if they found something other than plastic to make the phones.
 
cerebus said:
The thing is, most handset makers assume that people want a range of possible phone options so they provide a suite of phones to suit all the niches they can imagine. And increasing screen size is one way for them to designate the hierarchy of their lineup. Apple assumes that people want basically one thing, so they pour their energy into making that phone the best possible one they can. Then they make their older models fit into the cheaper buying spectrum.

Point being they are always walking a very fine line where any physical changes have to be painstakingly scrutinised in case they alienate a portion of their clientèle. It's unlikely that they would make a significantly bigger phone for this reason. There is just too much middle ground to be lost - ex-Blackberry using businessmen who aren't into the oneupmanship of 720p 4.7" screens for instance.
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I agree the 4 inch will probably be the safest for them this round cant push up to 4.3 inches without alienating some of their old clientèle.
 
Dolby said:
Um ... nothing competes :/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...e-Pre-orders-hit-9m-beating-iPhone-4s-4m.html

* Samsung Galaxy S3 is now the most pre-ordered gadget in history at nine million - beating the iPhone 4S's four million
* S3 will be fastest selling gadget in history
* Analysts predict Android usage will swell from an estimated 350million users today to one billion by end of 2013
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That's interesting about the S3, but your Android figures probably don't mean squat for Apple. Android is in everything so of course by sheer numbers alone, they will outstrip everything.

I see the article is talking pre-launch, and Samsung was quoted saying they expect sales to reach 10million by July. How many have they actually sold so far?
 
To me the current iPhone is just the right thickness.

cerebus said:
The thing is, most handset makers assume that people want a range of possible phone options so they provide a suite of phones to suit all the niches they can imagine. And increasing screen size is one way for them to designate the hierarchy of their lineup. Apple assumes that people want basically one thing, so they pour their energy into making that phone the best possible one they can. Then they make their older models fit into the cheaper buying spectrum.
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A great aspect of the iPhone is the simple choice. There's no need to spend a lot of time comparing processors and screen sizes trying to find a reasonable phone. They make one size with some memory options.

falcon786 said:
I agree the 4 inch will probably be the safest for them this round cant push up to 4.3 inches without alienating some of their old clientèle.
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Hopefully they'll never try to make the phone that big.
 
Dolby said:
Um ... nothing competes :/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...e-Pre-orders-hit-9m-beating-iPhone-4s-4m.html

* Samsung Galaxy S3 is now the most pre-ordered gadget in history at nine million - beating the iPhone 4S's four million
* S3 will be fastest selling gadget in history
* Analysts predict Android usage will swell from an estimated 350million users today to one billion by end of 2013
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Don't misread me. What I meant is that none of the other handset manufacturers are following Apple's strategy of releasing one single smartphone per generation and only choosing to differentiating it from its predecessors. I didn't even remotely mean that there is no competition to the iPhone. Whether Apple is correct or the competition is correct in their assumptions is a matter of opinion.
 
noxibox said:
To me the current iPhone is just the right thickness.
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whats your phone history,im guessing you haven't used much be honest here please....


A great aspect of the iPhone is the simple choice. There's no need to spend a lot of time comparing processors and screen sizes trying to find a reasonable phone. They make one size with some memory options.
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Yep herd mentality works the same way :p no choice "hey theres one running lets follow "

Hopefully they'll never try to make the phone that big.
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Thats not big at all,its quite apparent to me by now that you haven't actually owned or used many modern smart phones or you'd know that the iphone 4s 3,5 inch screen is simply too small for a modern smart phone,yes i do have one but i bought it because i needed a change from android because i tend to get bored of my tech stuff easily but trust me the screen is too small.
 
R13... said:
Even Samsung? I don't think so, their displays are very good - they could do better if they found something other than plastic to make the phones.
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I thought the Galaxy S2 looked good until I put it next to an iPhone 4, then it looked a bit lacklustre. But the HTC One X screened looked good, and I'd expect the S3 to be at least as good.
 
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noxibox said:
I thought the Galaxy S2 looked good until I put it next to an iPhone 4, the it looked a bit lacklustre. But the HTC One X screened looked good, and I'd expect the S3 to be at least as good.
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It depends what you are comparing exactly,resolution wise yes the iphone is better but the s2 definitely offers better contrast and deeper blacks that the iphone cant come close to.With the s3 though the iphone no longer has a resolution advantage from normal viewing distances.

Those deep blacks cant be matched by anything other than Amoled even Sony's bravia on the xperia s which does better than the iphone and htc one x cant beat the deep blacks,contrast and viewing angles of nokia/samsung amoled.
 
falcon786 said:
It depends what you are comparing exactly,resolution wise yes the iphone is better but the s2 definitely offers better contrast and deeper blacks that the iphone cant come close to.With the s3 though the iphone no longer has a resolution advantage from normal viewing distances.

Those deep blacks cant be matched by anything other than Amoled even Sony's bravia on the xperia s which does better than the iphone and htc one x cant beat the deep blacks,contrast and viewing angles of nokia/samsung amoled.
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Most people are not going to notice all that stuff, which is why they buy an iPhone because it looks better than the others (build quality & feel). I just saw an HTC One X a few moments ago and it suffers the plastic look of Android makers. It is very light but plasticky too. I admit, the Note blew me away with its display.
 
falcon786 said:
It depends what you are comparing exactly,resolution wise yes the iphone is better but the s2 definitely offers better contrast and deeper blacks that the iphone cant come close to.With the s3 though the iphone no longer has a resolution advantage from normal viewing distances.

Those deep blacks cant be matched by anything other than Amoled even Sony's bravia on the xperia s which does better than the iphone and htc one x cant beat the deep blacks,contrast and viewing angles of nokia/samsung amoled.
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I find the Amoled screens make colors a bt too vibrant, almost neon.
 
noxibox said:
I thought the Galaxy S2 looked good until I put it next to an iPhone 4, the it looked a bit lacklustre. But the HTC One X screened looked good, and I'd expect the S3 to be at least as good.
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S3 screen is actually underwhelming to me. It's basically the same quality as the SGS1 except for the resolution and size. One X is much better.

Thats not big at all,its quite apparent to me by now that you haven't actually owned or used many modern smart phones or you'd know that the iphone 4s 3,5 inch screen is simply too small for a modern smart phone,yes i do have one but i bought it because i needed a change from android because i tend to get bored of my tech stuff easily but trust me the screen is too small.
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For you...
 
I think Android suffers from trying to be bigger, thinner, lighter but not always being better. You hold an iPhone and it isn't the thinnest or lightest smartphone but it feels proper, substantial and well built, it feels as if it is a quality product. Android phones tend to be plastics that are flimsy and creaky and even the flagship phones like the S2 and S3 don't escape this. The S3 is massive, it doesn't feel comfortable in my hand and there is no chance I could type one handed on it. It feels way too light for its size and thus feels very brittle. The screen is impressive but didn't have the same impact on me as the first time I saw a retina display screen. Also in a strange way, I feel Samsung screens feel like Sony TV screens with the very saturated colours where as Apple's screens are more like Sammy TV's with the more lifelike tones.
 
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