Is all fibre made equal?

[Death_By_Ebola]

Greetings community,

Is there any difference between the fibre network that Vumatel installs, compared to the one that say Openserve will install?

I`m asking for interests sakes, as we have two suppliers competing for fibre installation in our area, and I would like to know if one is going to be better than the other.

I understand that individual ISP service will be different, but is the actual fibre itself the same, would Openserve have better (faster) fibre than Vumatel?

Thanks

 

[Sinbad]

No to the title. Yes to the first question.

Vumatel is much faster than Openserve. It uses active ethernet (for its trenched fibre) not GPON and you don't have to deal with Openserve's IPC model and pricing.

 

[blowdart18]

Essentially the technology is the same, The only thing that might change is the configuration of the psychical network or how the choose to deliver your fiber.

Search these terms and you will get a general understanding of the different configs, EPON, GPON, FTTH, FTTB, FTTN etc etc

If you search the forum the guys here have gone through the information in depth.

 

[Death_By_Ebola]

Thank you Sinbad and blowdart18,

Vumatel will be doing an above ground install in the complex, the other chaps will be trenching up the place to lay their fibre.

I`m busy reading up on GPON, EPON etc (so many new words, til), hopefully by the end of the day I`ll have it figured out.

Thanks for the pointers.

 

[quovadis]

Thank you Sinbad and blowdart18,

Vumatel will be doing an above ground install in the complex, the other chaps will be trenching up the place to lay their fibre.

I`m busy reading up on GPON, EPON etc (so many new words, til), hopefully by the end of the day I`ll have it figured out.

Thanks for the pointers.

My advice is that if there is no cost to the esate then allow both to install and compete. More choice = more value. Our estate has Metrofibre and Openserve to every home with DFA currently just outside with zero install cost whether the homes wanted to use Openserve or Metrofibre or not. My 2c although Openserve has a max service of 100/50mb (Vuma has faster speed profiles available) it has a little extra flexibility in allowing you to have any DSL ISP account or combination of accounts live - so changing ISPs or allowing certain accounts for certain activities is great from a flexibility perspective. eg. I use VOX for my data requirements however use Axxess as a backup and for fixed IP purposes simultaneously.

 

[Death_By_Ebola]

My advice is that if there is no cost to the esate then allow both to install and compete. More choice = more value. Our estate has Metrofibre and Openserve to every home with DFA currently just outside with zero install cost whether the homes wanted to use Openserve or Metrofibre or not.

That would be ideal, unfortunately I doubt they will allow both to install. Something about upsetting the owners, inconvenience of trenches being dug around, and potentially breaking, existing infrastrucutre etc

My 2c although Openserve has a max service of 100/50mb (Vuma has faster speed profiles available) it has a little extra flexibility in allowing you to have any DSL ISP account or combination of accounts live - so changing ISPs or allowing certain accounts for certain activities is great from a flexibility perspective. eg. I use VOX for my data requirements however use Axxess as a backup and for fixed IP purposes simultaneously.

Is that 100/50mb contention ratio, ie 100 people per 50mb line so you`re not guaranteed true speed and will be splitting it with others? Excuse my ignorance, this is new territory for me.

Thanks for your reply, much appreciated.

 

[Sinbad]

That would be ideal, unfortunately I doubt they will allow both to install. Something about upsetting the owners, inconvenience of trenches being dug around, and potentially breaking, existing infrastrucutre etc



Is that 100/50mb contention ratio, ie 100 people per 50mb line so you`re not guaranteed true speed and will be splitting it with others? Excuse my ignorance, this is new territory for me.

Thanks for your reply, much appreciated.

No, 100 down, 50 up.
COntention on gpon is usually around 32:1 if I'm not mistaken?

 

[Death_By_Ebola]

No, 100 down, 50 up.
COntention on gpon is usually around 32:1 if I'm not mistaken?

Oh that makes more sense, thanks.

 

[quovadis]

No, 100 down, 50 up.
COntention on gpon is usually around 32:1 if I'm not mistaken?

I think it’s 2.488 Gbits/s downstream and 1.244 Gbits/s upstream multiplexed between a typical split of 32 so quite favorable in terms of access contention.

 

[Yster21]

No to the title. Yes to the first question.

Vumatel is much faster than Openserve. It uses active ethernet (for its trenched fibre) not GPON and you don't have to deal with Openserve's IPC model and pricing.

"Much faster" because AE > GPON? No, not really. We have Vumatel's GPON in our area and easily get our 200/200 speeds. Whether AE can do much more than GPON at the moment is absolutely irrelevant.

COntention on gpon is usually around 32:1 if I'm not mistaken?

It depends on what the supplier wants to do. Vumatel is 24:1 per 2.4 Gbps splitter (or was it 25:1 per 2.5 Gbps?), guaranteeing 100 Mbps simultaneously if ALL 24 homes are connected and busy smashing their connections at exactly the same time... which is not happening now. You'd be amazed at how slow the fibre uptake is in an area. I think we're currently maybe 6-8 houses sharing one splitter, and most houses have 20 or 50 Mbps. It's the exception for people to go 100 or 200, typically only us geeks.

The bottom line is that AE vs GPON should not even be a consideration at the moment. They're both perfectly fine. Rather get the price, support level and performance that suits your needs. For me, that's CISP on Vumatel.

 

[calypso]

If i had the choice between Telkom or anyone else, i would probably pick anyone else.