IS International bandwidth terrible

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Terrible latency on IS Business 512k ADSL [Satellite] only not the Fiber package
Oh I forgot we have clouds again over Jhb and the satellite link is problematic ;-)

Look at Router No6 what is happening, latency doubles
from router 5 to 6:- 640 ms to 1200 ms
168.210.250.80 1255.796 ms 1256.203 ms 1256.135 ms

traceroute to www.google.com (64.233.179.104), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 196.211.x.xxx 1.036 ms 1.500 ms 1.416 ms
2 196.211.129.13 61.641 ms 61.865 ms 65.312 ms
3 196.36.80.209 66.265 ms 69.237 ms 71.632 ms
4 196.26.96.198 76.526 ms 77.988 ms 84.350 ms
5 168.210.250.81 641.235 ms 643.187 ms 646.429 ms
6 168.210.250.80 1195.556 ms 1199.064 ms 1200.029 ms
7 168.209.244.7 1204.185 ms 1208.323 ms 1219.913 ms
8 core1-0-2-0.lga.net.google.com (198.32.160.130) 1169.422 ms 1171.672 ms 1174.640 ms
9 216.239.49.34 1178.907 ms 1181.132 ms 1183.305 ms
10 66.249.94.235 1191.157 ms 1201.206 ms 1204.874 ms
11 72.14.238.138 1185.818 ms 1188.283 ms 1190.553 ms
12 72.14.238.155 1212.592 ms 72.14.239.19 1213.747 ms 1215.048 ms
13 72.14.238.182 1219.142 ms 1219.859 ms 72.14.238.178 1219.557 ms
14 64.233.179.104 1199.764 ms 1199.582 ms 1199.138 ms


IS Business 512k ADSL [Fiber package]

traceroute to www.google.com (66.249.85.104), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
3 196.33.x.xxx 3.076 ms 2.703 ms 2.750 ms
4 196.34.50.33 54.549 ms 57.683 ms 62.621 ms
5 196.36.80.217 63.971 ms 64.560 ms 66.608 ms
6 196.26.96.195 81.204 ms 84.264 ms 84.481 ms
7 core1b-rba-gi0-1.rtr.isnet.net (196.26.0.10) 72.416 ms 75.853 ms 81.155 ms
8 168.209.160.89 247.608 ms 250.086 ms 253.363 ms
9 168.209.224.65 256.335 ms 259.341 ms 262.461 ms
10 195.66.226.125 225.660 ms 231.520 ms 233.352 ms
11 72.14.238.242 236.108 ms 237.523 ms 241.090 ms
12 216.239.43.91 249.399 ms 252.668 ms 255.716 ms
13 72.14.232.209 256.293 ms 256.497 ms 258.574 ms
14 66.249.85.104 260.304 ms 261.709 ms 262.353 ms
 
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/rolls 1d6/

2!

looks up IS excuse table

1 - sunspot
2 - clouds
3 - bird poop on cable
4 - Telkom Rosebank exchange
5 - End of month "abuse"
6 - DM chooses option.

so, 2 - clouds it is.

DM: ISDSL latency is heavily affected by clouds. Rolls 1d20 to check for SAIX backup success.
 
eish, I'm trying to connect to a MS-VPN through a SAIX ISP and it's literally crawling like a snail - I wait sometimes 1-2 minutes for a response. I even tried using PayVPN which Telkom has recently started blocking on port 110, so Clipse switched the port to the 1194 (which is suppose to be a UDP port) but most times I can't even connect to the MS-VPN server that I need to.

Telkom?
 
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IS' bandwidth is rubbish even in their magnificently expensive hosting facilities. That's why I moved our servers out of there.
 
The only IS package worth using is the expensive $$$
Business 512k or 1024k Fiber package if you look at the
traceroutes very good. Full 512k from any where.


traceroute to www.google.com (66.249.85.104), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
3 196.33.x.xxx 3.076 ms 2.703 ms 2.750 ms
4 196.34.50.33 54.549 ms 57.683 ms 62.621 ms
5 196.36.80.217 63.971 ms 64.560 ms 66.608 ms
6 196.26.96.195 81.204 ms 84.264 ms 84.481 ms
7 core1b-rba-gi0-1.rtr.isnet.net (196.26.0.10) 72.416 ms 75.853 ms 81.155 ms
8 168.209.160.89 247.608 ms 250.086 ms 253.363 ms
9 168.209.224.65 256.335 ms 259.341 ms 262.461 ms
10 195.66.226.125 225.660 ms 231.520 ms 233.352 ms
11 72.14.238.242 236.108 ms 237.523 ms 241.090 ms
12 216.239.43.91 249.399 ms 252.668 ms 255.716 ms
13 72.14.232.209 256.293 ms 256.497 ms 258.574 ms
14 66.249.85.104 260.304 ms 261.709 ms 262.353 ms
 
kilos, the ping response may be good (but what you post is no better than I'm getting on SAIX ADSL), but that doesn't mean their bandwidth is any good.

Example: server1 sits in IS, we're paying something to the tune of 35c per mb for a supposedly very low contention 100mbit connection. I download a package from the Irish sourceforge mirror. trickles down at about 130 kbyte/s.

Server2 sits in Hetzner, shares *one* 100mbit connection with the entire server room (I'm guessing at least 200 servers). Download the same package at the same time from the same server, it comes down at more than 300 kbyte/s.

Now, I download stuff from our servers all the time. From Hetzner, it comes at a steady 100 kbyte/s odd (1mbit ADSL at work). From IS, it hardly ever hits 40 kbyte/s, and it's not steady, it goes up to 40, then slows down gradually to bout 10, then jumps up again, slows down again, repeat repeat repeat.

Oh, and did I mention hetzner charges only 9c p/mb over the 5gb included in our hosting package?

IS can keep their bandwidth for all I care.
 
Thanks koffiejunkie, the IS over fibre package is at full speed
of 512k and that has been tested.
The chap who has the IS Fibre package is from Switzerland and very particular
and very much used to European internet speeds so he is quite impressed
He needs to connect via Citrix to his server farm in CH and has tried
all connectivity packages available to all the Tier 1 ISP in SA over the last 3 years.
Router No 6 back to normal latency.

* 2 Mb link with 4000 IP's for R6000/month (Switzerland)
* SAIX 64k Gold with 8 IP'x for R6000/month (South Africa)


traceroute to www.google.com (64.233.161.104), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 196.211.2.xxx 1.027 ms 1.386 ms 1.359 ms
2 196.211.129.13 77.177 ms 77.774 ms 77.946 ms
3 196.36.80.209 77.948 ms 77.102 ms 94.168 ms
4 196.26.96.198 97.832 ms 96.796 ms 96.839 ms
5 168.210.250.81 668.211 ms 668.534 ms 668.860 ms
6 168.210.250.80 675.902 ms 680.786 ms 683.470 ms
7 168.209.244.7 683.199 ms 687.071 ms 687.110 ms
8 core1-0-2-0.lga.net.google.com (198.32.160.130) 645.160 ms 646.799 ms 646.298 ms
9 216.239.49.34 649.061 ms 650.998 ms 648.063 ms
10 66.249.94.235 649.901 ms 652.630 ms 654.544 ms
11 72.14.238.232 636.520 ms 640.438 ms 656.726 ms
12 72.14.236.200 657.401 ms 72.14.236.202 659.457 ms 662.323 ms
13 216.239.49.214 665.387 ms 672.893 ms 216.239.48.190 704.521 ms
14 64.233.161.104 685.710 ms 714.551 ms 714.085 ms
 
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IS DSL 512k over Satellite

This discussion has gone around and around and now I have to find
another solution as this connectivity is DISGUSTING
(oversubscription), the ideal is to spend R2700 and get the SAT3
fiber conenction until that gets over subscribed.

IS DSL 512k over Satellite
traceroute to www.google.com (216.239.37.99), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 196.211.2.xxx 1.225 ms 1.400 ms 3.155 ms
2 196.211.129.13 49.160 ms 57.710 ms 57.777 ms
3 196.36.80.209 61.331 ms 63.065 ms 65.241 ms
4 196.26.96.198 68.664 ms 70.339 ms 74.068 ms
5 168.210.250.81 635.968 ms 638.535 ms 641.601 ms
6 168.210.250.80 1038.642 ms 1040.413 ms 1042.369 ms
7 168.209.244.7 1123.931 ms 1123.417 ms 1122.332 ms
8 core1-0-2-0.lga.net.google.com (198.32.160.130) 1031.170 ms * *
9 * * 216.239.49.34 1026.321 ms
10 66.249.94.235 1036.180 ms 1038.735 ms 1041.869 ms
11 * 72.14.232.106 1031.737 ms 66.249.95.127 1031.423 ms
12 66.249.95.126 1028.397 ms 216.239.48.96 1028.422 ms 1030.472 ms
13 72.14.232.106 1032.808 ms 1035.508 ms 216.239.48.110 1038.842 ms
14 216.239.37.99 1063.034 ms 1066.586 ms *


IS DSL 512 over SAT3 cable
traceroute to www.google.com (216.239.37.99), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
3 196.33.245.xxx 2.868 ms 2.549 ms 2.248 ms
4 196.34.50.33 58.562 ms 62.610 ms 65.911 ms
5 196.36.80.217 67.227 ms 68.644 ms 68.961 ms
6 196.26.96.195 71.874 ms 72.383 ms 73.575 ms
7 core2b-rba-gi8-0-0.rtr.isnet.net (196.26.0.9) 75.460 ms 76.984 ms 78.573 ms
8 168.209.0.94 352.993 ms 354.202 ms 354.445 ms
9 168.209.244.7 360.047 ms 360.654 ms 361.057 ms
10 core1-0-2-0.lga.net.google.com (198.32.160.130) 334.010 ms 337.550 ms 339.343 ms
11 216.239.49.34 341.284 ms 344.148 ms 347.874 ms
12 66.249.94.235 350.082 ms 355.160 ms 358.056 ms
13 66.249.95.127 338.062 ms 340.835 ms 72.14.232.106 348.190 ms
14 72.14.232.108 348.759 ms 216.239.48.96 349.574 ms 66.249.95.126 352.813 ms
15 216.239.48.110 353.081 ms 353.295 ms 363.583 ms
16 216.239.48.94 364.631 ms 364.998 ms 365.434 ms
17 216.239.37.99 366.191 ms 366.550 ms 367.219 ms
 
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They do, it's called diginet :D Very attractive product actually it's just that price *sigh*

As for IS, well if they *HAD* 100% uptime (meaning the network wasn't down every other day, aka 2kb's international) then they would just suck very badly(I mean common, when they are 100% working I can't watch streaming video's and my downloads NEVER run at full line capacity). But this constant downtime puts them down there with piets network in the back yard that's piggybacking off of jannie's (his friend from next door) GPRS powered Internet connection. It suck's and the only have decent thing they had, i.e the news-server has completely gone to hell aswell.
 
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Because of my complaining they are offering me a DSL 512 over Fiber
package as a trial for the month, trying to tempt you because
of their crap service on the satellite.
 
For what kind of price? Because the ONLY reason I'm on IS is because of the 30gig Local.
 
Because of my complaining they are offering me a DSL 512 over Fiber
package as a trial for the month, trying to tempt you because
of their crap service on the satellite.
 
Moederloos said:
/rolls 1d6/

2!

looks up IS excuse table

1 - sunspot
2 - clouds
3 - bird poop on cable
4 - Telkom Rosebank exchange
5 - End of month "abuse"
6 - DM chooses option.

so, 2 - clouds it is.

DM: ISDSL latency is heavily affected by clouds. Rolls 1d20 to check for SAIX backup success.
Click to expand...


lol lol lol /me rolls d6 ftw
 
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