Is it still possible to fail Matric ?

Slootvreter said:
But these dumb children that are helped though matric, fail miserably at universities. ;)
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Also when matric marks are moderated upwards to bring up a failing standard average. For example a 30% average Matric Class could be increased to 50% by adding 20% to each learners mark, which would mean that a 30% student could technically qualify for university entrance with 50% although they actually only got 30% at the end of Matric.
These students then compete with people that actually did get 50% average possibly even taking their place, probably failing the first year leaving the person who actually got 50% on average for Matric with a lost opportunity.
 
BTTB said:
These students then compete with people that actually did get 50% average possibly even taking their place, probably failing the first year leaving the person who actually got 50% on average for Matric with a lost opportunity.
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True. :mad:
 
The sad thing about this situation is not whether these matrics "fail miserably at university", but the fact that in some cases they are granted admission to courses where admission numbers are limited but where diversity targets needs to be met. Of course they then fail miserably the first year and drop out. Someone else with much better matric marks and much more potential in making a success of the course gets denied access to that course because of limited numbers, and because of that same diversity targets. The problem is that although this person dropped out, every year there are new admissions like these that will just eventually drop out, so every year denying access to someone with better potential for success.
 
Yes, it is still possible, I sometimes wonder:
1) If I had teachers but they were never in class
2) No textbooks at all
3) No Stationery at all.

I wonder if I would be able to pass Maths, Science etc. :)
 
I was a lecturer at a University of Technology for seven years. During this time I came into contact with many students especially from rural schools - who were not taught anything at all - no teachers , teachers drunk, teachers at rallies and so on - so as much as we can say you should know English at std 5, etc. It is not always possible.
 
badtrev said:
I was a lecturer at a University of Technology for seven years. During this time I came into contact with many students especially from rural schools - who were not taught anything at all - no teachers , teachers drunk, teachers at rallies and so on - so as much as we can say you should know English at std 5, etc. It is not always possible.
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Who voted the current government into power responsible for the education of it's citizens?

I sometimes think the ANC wants dumb uneducated constituents as they are easier to lie to and feed crap. They will just keep voting every time they get promised something. In the old days there were protest about the "bantu education" system, the current one is not far off and there are no protests. The only protests come when it's to hard and they drop out like flies.

Africa strives towards mediocrity, everybody equally dumb and poor. Excelling is not the order of the day on this continent.

Until this culture is changed nothing else will change.
 
Nihilanth said:
Yes, it is still possible, I sometimes wonder:
1) If I had teachers but they were never in class
2) No textbooks at all
3) No Stationery at all.

I wonder if I would be able to pass Maths, Science etc. :)
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This is true, but the students who are now making their way into university are not as well educated as those who were schooled under the old system. There has definitely been a decline and many students struggle with maths/science etc., this can only be because of a drop in standards at high school level.

Simply put, students who finish school this year know less than those who finished five years ago
 
Well, I got my matric in 1981, and tbh, I didnt study. To me studying was looking for your textbook the day before the exam and reading it while sunning yourself besides the pool. Im sure I only passed because they felt sorry for me or wanted me out of town or something. I only realised what a ****e education I had when I went to uni.

Then again, my education was on the East Rand. Enough said :D
 
zippy said:
Well, I got my matric in 1981, and tbh, I didnt study. I only realised what a ****e education I had when I went to uni.

Then again, my education was on the East Rand. Enough said :D
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You probably had a good education contrary to what you believe and is available today.

School does not really prepare you for university or higher education. My advice to anyone who wants to study further is concentrate on Maths, Science & English. University or whatever will teach you how to study and how to access information and possible how to think for yourself. What you study is not so important.

I also did not study much in Std.9&10 BUT I paid attention in class, did my homework (at school in lunch breaks, or on the bus on the way home etc) early so i could have 'time off' to go to the beach everyday. At night I maybe spent 30mins max if it was not done already. I also had good teachers (most anyway), there were no such things as strikes or rallies, absenteeism due to ill health etc was extremely low.

People are looking for excuses everywhere except right under their own noses.
 
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I think im in a position to respond to the OP as I've completed matric in 2008.

Yes, it is almost impossible to fail matric. You have to be extremely intellectually challenged to fail matric. In every paper the examiners ensure that 30 percent of the marks are a dead giveaway so everyone passes. However after that 30 percent the questions become challenging and complex.

So, whilst it may be easy to pass. To get the entrance requirement is no stroll and some effort is required. A matric pass of 45 percent is as useful as a fail.
 
yip i remember a mate of mine failing the first 3 terms miserably and still arriving for finals without studying :confused:. yet he still passed? um wtf no ways
 
I want a GTI said:
To get the entrance requirement is no stroll and some effort is required.
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University entrance is not what it used to be either if I'm not mistaken, back in the day you needed at least a C on HG to study eng & sci at uni, although this was minimum it was not always enough.
 
ponder said:
University entrance is not what it used to be either if I'm not mistaken, back in the day you needed at least a C on HG to study eng & sci at uni, although this was minimum it was not always enough.
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It still is a C, except that theres no higher grade or standard grade.
 
And that is why universities now do entrance exams for everything.

Sucks for those that had to earn their matric the old school way. This dilutes the value of everyone's matric.:sick:

oh, and IEB schools ftw.:cool:
 
heh, afaik the schooling system has been changing for the past 50 years or so...this is nothing new, apart from the lowering % needed to pass.
 
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