Is Microsoft "Pro-Christ" While Apple is "Anti-Christ"?

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It is not often that religion is discussed on tech sites and in business for that matter.

As a matter of fact, reference to religion is most often avoided in favor of neutrality for the obvious reason that there are numerous religions in the world. At its best, treading the religious path is like walking on egg shells.

However, in Russia, orthodox Christians have taken a stand against Apple calling it "anti-Christ". As far fetched as it may seem, it makes absolute sense. In its logo, when you think of it in religious terms, the bitten apple immediately reminds one of man's first sin according to the bible - eating the forbidden fruit.

Neowin reports that Russian orthodox Christian's who purchase Apple products have resorted to replacing the Apple logo with a cross as the cross represents the redemption of mankind through Christ's death on the cross and subsequent resurrection. Thinking a little further than the Russian orthodox Christians, if one looks at Micorosoft's new logo, one notices that it is made up of four squares which make up a cross.

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So, if Apple with its 'forbidden fruit' logo is the anti-Christ company, then shouldn't Microsoft and its products then be the pro-Christ company with the cross depicted by the intersection of the four squares of its new logo?

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Could it be that Microsoft's new software and products are part of a bigger scheme of things in saving people from the "anti-Christ"? Could Microsoft's new products be that alternative that the orthodox Christians are actually looking for? The fact is, why are the orthodox Christians even buying products that they think are "anti-Christ" in the first place - only to replace their logo with a cross?

Or maybe you think we should not be discussing this at all?

What is your take?
 
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No, Microsoft is Muslim, trying to take over the world (actually suits apple better imho;) with regards to the apple-samsung debacle)
Linux is Pro-Christ: Linux saves you (from a lot of things) ;)
 
Sounds like pure crazy to me.

What is that saying about finding the devil anywhere you look for him?
 
Ancalagon said:
Sounds like pure crazy to me.

What is that saying about finding the devil anywhere you look for him?
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I hear your point but the evidence looks pretty convincing.

The way that people are drawn to Apple products feels pretty much the same way that people are drawn to sin. The "forbidden fruit" is very much aspirational in the same way that owning an Apple product is. Just the other week someone did something drastic to own an Apple product, I think he/she sold a kidney or something.

That logo tells the whole story.
 
Why the hell is this in the Windows phone sub section and not off topic? It has nothing to do with phones.

Oh and Linux/Open Source is more like an atheist movement, bound to nothing and making their own rules as the move on. :)
 
AlphaJohn said:
Why the hell is this in the Windows phone sub section and not off topic? It has nothing to do with phones.

Oh and Linux/Open Source is more like an atheist movement, bound to nothing and making their own rules as the move on. :)
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:D
 
What happens if you use a Microsoft product but also have an Apple? Do you get the best of both worlds, or are you utterly condemned for all eternity, with no room-full of virgins awaiting you?
 
Friedpet said:
No, Microsoft is Muslim, trying to take over the world (actually suits apple better imho;) with regards to the apple-samsung debacle)
Linux is Pro-Christ: Linux saves you (from a lot of things) ;)
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Nonono... if you want to go that route, it would be islam=DOS, scientology=apple, atheism=linux and evangelical christianity=microsoft.... perhaps.
 
McCrazieGoalz said:
I hear your point but the evidence looks pretty convincing.

The way that people are drawn to Apple products feels pretty much the same way that people are drawn to sin. The "forbidden fruit" is very much aspirational in the same way that owning an Apple product is. Just the other week someone did something drastic to own an Apple product, I think he/she sold a kidney or something.

That logo tells the whole story.
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Ek se vir you "Wo"!

There is no evidence! Only conjecture!

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Is Bill Gates even a Christian?
 
This is seriously misbegotten discussion, and does great damage to the cause of right and truth. The OP clearly has a woefully shallow understanding of commerce and religion.
 
Arthur said:
This is seriously misbegotten discussion, and does great damage to the cause of right and truth. The OP clearly has a woefully shallow understanding of commerce and religion.
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Oops, just stepped on an egg shell.

Arthur, please school us, us with shallow minded understandings of the relationship between business and religion.

Just to make it clear to you, I am neither in the business or religion sectors by profession. Neither am I a devoured Christian.

My basic understanding of Christianity is what the cross v 'forbidden fruit' comparison is based on.

You must agree with me that the conjecture of pro-Christian (MS logo) vs anti-Christ (Apple logo) is somewhat warranted given their symbolicism outside of business (i.e. particularly within religion).
 
McCrazieGoalz said:
Oops, just stepped on an egg shell.

Arthur, please school us, us with shallow minded understandings of the relationship between business and religion.

Just to make it clear to you, I am neither in the business or religion sectors by profession. Neither am I a devoured Christian.

My basic understanding of Christianity is what the cross v 'forbidden fruit' comparison is based on.

You must agree with me that the conjecture of pro-Christian (MS logo) vs anti-Christ (Apple logo) is somewhat warranted given their symbolicism outside of business (i.e. particularly within religion).
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Your original post...did you think that crap about the apple and the Windows sign out yourself, or did you read that somewhere? :confused:
 
For a start: where do you get the notion that a happed-Apple is "anti-Christian"? BTW, there's no mention of an apple in the story of the Fall. The Russian Orthodox objectors are making very tendentious connections two-step connection from 60s social revolution to the Fall.

As for the Microsoft logo: Presumably you mean the Windows logo? Old four-colour one or the new one-colour?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
 
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Arthur said:
BTW, there's no mention of an apple in the story of the Fall.
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You seem to be basing your arguement on the premise that everybody (children adults) understands that it is not the apple that was the actual forbidden fruit. To many, it is the apple that is the forbidden fruit and it is the representation of the forbidden fruit. Yes, it is only that in the symbolic sense but it is the forbidden fruit that most (especially children) understand. Here take into consideration that some of the brand's biggest fans are essentially children (teenagers).

Have a look at the results of my search of "forbidden fruit" on Google.
http://www.google.co.za/search?q=fo...FhQe9uoAI&sqi=2&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=709

Some of the random images of the search (below):

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Suffice to say 98% of the images in the search results include apples.

Arthur said:
As for the Microsoft logo: Presumably you mean the Windows logo? Old four-colour one or the new one-colour?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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I mean the new one for Win8, which is either multi-colored or mono-toned. Either way the cross (the 'crucifix') is present. Your reality is different from my reality.

For many, the apple is the symbol for the forbidden fruit. A cigar is only a cigar if you only take it literally - something that advertisers often do not do and something that a logo does not do.
 
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@OP, seriously, given the tone and content of the posts in this thread I honestly believe that it should be relocated to PD if it is going to continue in this regard
 
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