Is Microsoft truly evil?

[w1z4rd]

So why is there an OSX client, if MS was so anti-another OS? Maybe Blizzard doesn't want the overhead to support the endless amount of distro's?

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Oh and +1 for Arthur!

You might be right. I dont think so, but you may.

To answer your question with a question.. why did Microsoft write MS Office for MacOSX and not Linux? When its not hard, and it doesnt have to be open source? It can still be propriety code.

Sadly wiz you are dead wrong mate, i know many companies who run servers for pastel and they run a windows server because pastel struggles on linux (yes i know it is not linux fault FFS).

I know better than microsoft but i know i can do everything on windows that i need to. Let's not make this a linux vs windows debate but people who use windows are not kiddies who know nothing but people who require windows to work and mostly game.

Sadly windows is needed by loads of people for them to function and not everyone enjoys dual booting or using multiple OS's when one OS can do everything. You will also find these linux okes who know everything still need windows for apps and games, yet always go on about how windows is for people who are clueless.

Please note i realize it is not linux's fault that it cannot run windows programs/games so lets nip that in the bud right now .

A MS server running Pastel with users connected via terminal clients is small change...

Isnt Pastel generally only for small/medium companies?

I had to deal with Pastel a couple of weeks ago. Setup 15 Ubuntu desktops that all RDP into a MS terminal services server running *spit* Pastel. Saved the company a fortune though theyre pretty small servers.

 

[killadoob]

Never knew pastel ran on ubuntu, would save companies tons of money if pastel runs on linux.

 

[w1z4rd]

Never knew pastel ran on ubuntu, would save companies tons of money if pastel runs on linux.

Thats not what I said .. though according to the Pastel guys you can get it running fine with Wine.

I said we setup a Windows Terminal Server.. which had Pastel on it. All the people who need to work on Pastel RDP into the terminal server and work on it in that way.

With that kinda of setup, and running Ubuntu desktops to RDP into the terminal servers you will save a lot of money. Though it does cut down on the amount of hours techies are able to bill a company when things dont break as often as they do with MS desktops.

 

[ponder]

Though it does cut down on the amount of hours techies are able to bill a company when things dont break as often as they do with MS desktops.

Reminds of a comment I heard from a guy that owns a IT company, "We run everything internally on linux but will not sell it to clients as we will loose money on support."

 

[killadoob]

How can you sell linux to people? it's free

Selling free stuff have you ever...

So explain to me this ponder, if microsoft is evil the people who are not selling linux to people are what? They are giving people stuff that they know will generate more money, how is that not evil?

Survival at all costs comes to mind but this is fine right? When microsoft do it they are evil. Strange. Seems to me as if there are different rules of business when it comes to microsoft and everyone else.

For everyone else they can do dodgy stuff but when microsoft do it they are called evil.

 

[ponder]

So explain to me this ponder...

I was merely quoting some arb guy in response to another post. If you need an explanation you should ask the guy I quoted
I could not give a rats ass whether you use microsoft, linux unix etc

 

[Conradl]

With that kinda of setup, and running Ubuntu desktops to RDP into the terminal servers you will save a lot of money. Though it does cut down on the amount of hours techies are able to bill a company when things dont break as often as they do with MS desktops.

LOL, what desktop do they run Pastel in then; its still MS (desktop in a desktop....) It does prove though, that MS environments can be stable, if you don't bugger around and break it....

Plus you still running an MS license at the desktop, albeit an RDP CAL....

 

[RoosTa]

You might be right. I dont think so, but you may.

To answer your question with a question.. why did Microsoft write MS Office for MacOSX and not Linux? When its not hard, and it doesnt have to be open source? It can still be propriety code.

Good question. I think it could be that everything on Linux needs to be open source? But I could be wrong.

 

[Synaesthesia]

Good question. I think it could be that everything on Linux needs to be open source? But I could be wrong.

Not necessarily (eg. Adobe Flash). But on some distributions, like Ubuntu this is the case.

 

[DJNgoma]

Good question. I think it could be that everything on Linux needs to be open source? But I could be wrong.

No it doesn't. There are quite a few apps I've seen that you need to pay to use, think they fall under propriety software. But such business is shun apon as Linux users prefer free lunches.

 

[killadoob]

Pay for software on linux!!!!!!! never man you cannot pay for software dammit!!!!!!! it is a sin in the world of linux