IS Shaping.

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May I ask what the hell IS? They arn't shaping protocals they shape ports! Here is a example. I want to listen to a online radio station but it uses port 96800 now that is obvious a non standard port.It buffers like 2min and is so breaking. But then I tuned in using the same server but on port 80 and it didn't buffer once. now people say shaping is when ports and protocal is shaped. But IS only shapes ports not the protocal. So just change your ports to 80 and you would bypass this shaping.

On another note. My friend has uncapped. So he bought a premium usenet service. So he said I could use it a while. I can make 10 threads but the speed is damn slow. MAX 10kbs now tell me does IS shape that too? The port is 119 though. Damn and today the shaping is worse it seems. :sick:
 
I don't know about online streaming, my I can do with my IS local account about 5-6Gigs a day on my 512k line using torrentz. I don't know what the port is, but I would assume that if they do do shaping, they would start with the torrentz.
 
Well Ports used generally indicate Protocol,sure you could run servers on other ports and it would bypass this,but who would reconfigure their services to use ports you could use? :P

Other option would be for them to check packets for protocol information

And yes 119 is shaped
 
SharkBait said:
I don't know about online streaming, my I can do with my IS local account about 5-6Gigs a day on my 512k line using torrentz. I don't know what the port is, but I would assume that if they do do shaping, they would start with the torrentz.
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I guess why you don't feel torrent shaping that much is cause 80% of the seeds and peers use different ports. And you connect to about 80-100 on average off seeds. Now that acts like a download manager. Multiple threads. Its just a theory. But I get better speeds in shaped hour with multiple connections that just 1 connection. :)
 
Is this a new thing, I havent had a problem with port 119 until this morning
 
It isn't new,some days you take a long time to connect,some days it's fast,luck of the draw
 
PsyWulf said:
It isn't new,some days you take a long time to connect,some days it's fast,luck of the draw
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i can connect but its just the speed. I have always been getting on average 400KB/s using port 119 no matter what tim of day. Its just today it was down to 50KB :confused:

I will keep my eye open
 
Quick question.

I'm on IS uncapped Fibre Express, Usually I get around 400-450 KB/s from GIGAnews (Paid News Server). Last night my speed was jumping between 40-70 KB/s. I assumed it was port shaping, However when I connected to the Local IS server, on the same port, I had full speed again.

Is this just a hiccup in the international line or is IS shaping international services on that port?
 
Well on a lot of the adverts I have read that there is not suppose to be shaping of the IS Uncapped Express, but we all know that usually means crap
 
Yeah, will see tonight. I do hope last night's problem, was only some hiccup at the new server or international link and not shaping ":/
 
But doesn't giganews also offer other ports you can use? I read on their website that you can also use the same port that secured webpages use, or I am completely mis-informed around this
 
Hmm, Perhaps I should go read. Thanks for that, I might have some luck :D
 
I just tested it, subscribed to giganews and got the 3 day trail, and used a normal IS account, and on port 119 it flew like a bat out of hell.

I see on their website if you do not take the diamond package with 256bit SSL, then you only get port 119, 80 and 23, but with the SL you get two more ports

But have to say, I am impressed with the speed on 119, and during working hours when IS usually shapes.

Am getting myself a uncapped express at the end of the month, so I can also get my news server fix
 
Gothan said:
I just tested it, subscribed to giganews and got the 3 day trail, and used a normal IS account, and on port 119 it flew like a bat out of hell.

I see on their website if you do not take the diamond package with 256bit SSL, then you only get port 119, 80 and 23, but with the SL you get two more ports

But have to say, I am impressed with the speed on 119, and during working hours when IS usually shapes.

Am getting myself a uncapped express at the end of the month, so I can also get my news server fix
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Can you use port 80 when using the 256bit SSL?
 
Stephen said:
Can you use port 80 when using the 256bit SSL?
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I am pretty sure you can, it just wont be SSL enabled, according to their website, when you use SSL, you get two more ports on which to run the 256bit encrypted stream.

And 80 being your normal HTTP port, I dont think 256bit encryption will be active on port 80 though, but you can still use it
 
I have the diamond package from Giganews. 10 Threads SSL and 10 Threads 119,23,80 etc so 20 threads in total. To be honest usually 10 threads is enough to max out a 4meg line, even with the supposed SSL overhead. Hell sometimes 5 threads is enough to max out the line!
 
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