Is your GPU fake?

IOIIOOIO said:
I don't undesratnd your reasoning that standing up to a scam artist and following the legal process is childish? Or futile for that matter.
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Do you have any evidence the person you bought it from was aware it was fake? From what I can see he sold it to you in all innocence.

Pop a valium and keep calm. How old are you anyway?
 
cerebus said:
My GPU is not fake. It is awesome.
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**** you damnit! :D

Look I realise I probably seems like an idiot that deserved it but I have never heard of a fake graphics card in my entire life and actually on the advert he had a picture of an MSI graphics card. He was an old ballie who seemed trustworthy, I got it from him from his workplace and it came with a receipt with his name on the invoice and his credit card slip with his name stapled to it so I literally had zero reason to question the legitimacy of it. I don't keep up with every brand of graphic card and like I said before it's always been my understanding that there may be a difference in quality of the board and it's components between each brand, but at the end of the day the GPU core of a Gigabyte GTX750 is the same as that of any other brand. This whole thing of taking an old card and flashing the bios and all that crap is somethnig that neither myself nor any of my very nerdy geeky tech startup colleagues have ever heard of. The shopkeeper at the branch I took it back to seems to have only realised now what is going on himself, and he has them on his shelf.
 
IOIIOOIO said:
**** you damnit! :D

Look I realise I probably seems like an idiot that deserved it but I have never heard of a fake graphics card in my entire life and actually on the advert he had a picture of an MSI graphics card. He was an old ballie who seemed trustworthy, I got it from him from his workplace and it came with a receipt with his name on the invoice and his credit card slip with his name stapled to it so I literally had zero reason to question the legitimacy of it. I don't keep up with every brand of graphic card and like I said before it's always been my understanding that there may be a difference in quality of the board and it's components between each brand, but at the end of the day the GPU core of a Gigabyte GTX750 is the same as that of any other brand. This whole thing of taking an old card and flashing the bios and all that crap is somethnig that neither myself nor any of my very nerdy geeky tech startup colleagues have ever heard of. The shopkeeper at the branch I took it back to seems to have only realised now what is going on himself, and he has them on his shelf.
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Nah I once bought a fake GPU from Carbonite. Luckily the seller was also honest and refunded me. But there's a big difference between buying cards from a guy in a parking lot and buying them from a 'legitimate' IT retailer. I do find that quite shocking; I never had a very high opinion of Matrix, but you would at least assume they're selling real components.
 
rwenzori said:
Do you have any evidence the person you bought it from was aware it was fake? From what I can see he sold it to you in all innocence.

Pop a valium and keep calm. How old are you anyway?
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Lol... I dont think you're quite following. There is a long story here which you can follow if you really want to and read the original thread I posted. At first it really did seem that he was the one guilty of scamming me here. Most people were telling me to not even bother taking it back to the shop and said I should demand a refund from him and press charges if he refused... there really would have been no alternative. Nobody suspected that it was actually the shop that was breaking the law here.
 
IOIIOOIO said:
Furthermore there are actually three parties who have grounds to press charges/sue here. First there's nVidia who's product has been stolen and appropriated illegally and their copyrights infringed upon. There's ninja whose brand has been appropriated illegally and their copyrights infringed upon. And lastly of course myself who has been defrauded and therefore have grounds to sue for damages.
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Not really.

NVIDIA couldn't care less, its not a "fake" CPU. Its a mislabeled one, but its 100% definitely not fake.
Ninja doesn't sound like a "real" brand, its likely some OEM rebranding.
Eg factory sells no-name card with your branding on.


If you can prove its a mislabelled product - i.e claims to be XX but in fact is YY, then your recourse is getting a refund from the seller, which in this case is likely to be an importer.

They may or may not care about it, as shipping back stuff to their factory supplier is likely to cost more than the product, especially for something as low end as you're talking about.

So yeah, you can get a refund, but thats about it. The supplier needs to do better QC maybe on their sourcing, but its really par for the course to be honest.
 
rwenzori said:
If you do get a full purchase price refund, I hope you hand some of that over to the guy you bought it from second hand.
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Why? He bought the gfx card under assumption it was a 750, if they refund him, he can get a real 750
 
rwenzori said:
Dur! He paid R1200, and expects a refund of R2200. Nice business that, for a kid.
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The original buyer sold it to him, what he does with it or benefits from it is his now. Especially since the original buyer didn't want anything to do with him and trying to get the issue sorted.
If you bought a car for R100k but found out you could sell it for R120k would you give the previous owner anything?
 
I think the real cause of this is just matrix buying from a dodgy supplier that's cheaper and not knowing they have bought fake cards.
Supplier buys cheap cards from alibaba or some chineese site that's listed as 750, supplier re-sells to matrix, nobody knows that the cards are fake, matrix sells to you.

You're well within your right to get a legitimate replacement from matrix as long as you've got the original proof of purchase.
If they aren't going to help you (if you do have PoP) take it to facebook/twitter and put it on their account till someone notices.

From the original owner's story, I think that if you can't tell that your GTX 750 is behaving like a GTS 450, and then upgrading the fake card to a GTX 960 and not noticing the difference, you shouldn't own a graphics card. xD
 
rwenzori said:
If you do get a full purchase price refund, I hope you hand some of that over to the guy you bought it from second hand.
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I hope you aren't being serious :erm: Guy sold him fake card, he manages to turn it into a win, but he must split profits with original seller? Not a chance mate.
 
IOIIOOIO said:
and therefore have grounds to sue for damages.
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Small side point: Not really. You can sue for specific performance and perhaps recovery of the extra costs you incurred to obtain redress, but not for damages. What damages do you have in mind - pain and suffering? Loss of income? These are not easy to prove because the wrong GPU was in the card. Fraud is a criminal matter, and the State will have to prove intent, otherwise it's simply a case of error.
 
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cerebus said:
Not a chance mate.
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Clearly not.

I wonder if Matrix know about this thread. Seeing as a payment of R1200 would set the OP back to the status quo ante, that would seem a better bet than paying him a full purchase price refund. After all, he did not buy it from Matrix but from some other person.
 
Faux_Grey said:
I think the real cause of this is just matrix buying from a dodgy supplier that's cheaper and not knowing they have bought fake cards.
Supplier buys cheap cards from alibaba or some chineese site that's listed as 750, supplier re-sells to matrix, nobody knows that the cards are fake, matrix sells to you.
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I'm sure that is the case. But, on the other side, Matrix will shovel the cheapest crap they can buy, so caveat emptor if you buy from them, generally speaking.
 
Arthur said:
Small side point: Not really. You can sue for specific performance and perhaps recovery of the extra costs you incurred to obtain redress, but not for damages. What damages do you have in mind - pain and suffering? Loss of income? These are not easy to prove because the wrong GPU was in the card. Fraud is a criminal matter, and the State will have to prove intent, otherwise it's simply a case of error.
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Ah right by damages I actually meant the "extra costs you incurred to obtain redress"... but I'm not going to go that route obviously... it's not really worthwhile. I just wanted to make the point that if they were being dicks then it would be an option for me; and would come at no risk to me becasue even if I lose I wouldn't have to pay lawyer fees or anything.

Aaaanyway... moving along Matrix Warehouse is being quite helpful with this situation and it definitely seems to be something up with their suppliers. They can't legally give me a cash refund because I bought it second-hand. However they have agreed to give me a different brand as a replacement and I will just have to pay the difference.
 
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