Israel at it again

marine1 said:
Just go to the religion of peace website, they have listed everything for us already. :D
Islamic terror clearly the cause of most conflicts over the last 20 yrs or so.
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The french connection website. Some good reading there too.
 
What i dont get is the muslims have huge amounts of land already. Why must they take isreal? Are they not content with all the land they already have? Why are they so greedy? Can some one please tell me.
 
crysis said:
What i dont get is the muslims have huge amounts of land already. Why must they take isreal? Are they not content with all the land they already have? Why are they so greedy? Can some one please tell me.
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Becuse it's the holyland and sacred to more than just Jews? Palestinians are 2nd class citizens and have had their property stolen. The holyland should become a democratic state with no preference for religion, this "Jewish state" BS has to end, it's holy to more than just Jews.

No religion has the right to claim it their land, would you support the forced creation of a Muslim state that controlled the holyland? It's racism pure and simple and has to end.
 
Aqua_lung said:
Becuse it's the holyland and sacred to more than just Jews? Palestinians are 2nd class citizens and have had their property stolen. The holyland should become a democratic state with no preference for religion, this "Jewish state" BS has to end, it's holy to more than just Jews.

No religion has the right to claim it their land, would you support the forced creation of a Muslim state that controlled the holyland? It's racism pure and simple and has to end.
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If Israeli's had to try and live in Muslim controlled states im sure it would only end badly. Where do you expect them to go? Why cant the Muslims accept that they don't belong in Israel, instead fighting back? How is that any better than the Israeli's?
 
Aqua_lung said:
Becuse it's the holyland and sacred to more than just Jews? Palestinians are 2nd class citizens and have had their property stolen. The holyland should become a democratic state with no preference for religion, this "Jewish state" BS has to end, it's holy to more than just Jews.

No religion has the right to claim it their land, would you support the forced creation of a Muslim state that controlled the holyland? It's racism pure and simple and has to end.
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So they expect to accomplish this by killing all the Israeli's first? They must really like that land. Pitty they cant just go to one of the other many countries they control.
 
crysis said:
If Israeli's had to try and live in Muslim controlled states im sure it would only end badly. Where do you expect them to go? Why cant the Muslims accept that they don't belong in Israel, instead fighting back? How is that any better than the Israeli's?
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Jews have lived in Muslim counties long before Israel, many Jews reached very high statuses and were part of Muslim Governments, most persecution was in Europe.

If Jews were interested in a state free from persecution why choose the holyland? that's like swimming with sharks so clearly that's not why Israel was founded, it was founded by religious zealots who put Jews in even greater danger because of their beliefs.
 
Well, there was a plan initially for Jews to Settle in Uganda thanks to the British government.

At the Sixth Zionist Congress at Basel on August 26, 1903, Herzl proposed the British Uganda Program as a temporary refuge for Jews in Russia in immediate danger. By a vote of 295-178 it was decided to send an expedition ("investigatory commission") to examine the territory proposed.

While Herzl made it clear that this program would not affect the ultimate aim of Zionism, a Jewish entity in the Land of Israel, the proposal aroused a storm at the Congress and nearly led to a split in the Zionist movement. The Jewish Territorialist Organization (ITO) was formed as a result of the unification of various groups who had supported Herzl's Uganda proposals during the period 1903-1905.

The Uganda Program was finally rejected by the Zionist movement at the Seventh Zionist Congress in 1905, but Nahum Syrkin and Israel Zangwill called an alternative conference to continue the plan of the Uganda scheme.
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Some Jews just wanted a place that they could make their home, while the Zionist on the other hand, whom were driven by Religious ideaology insisted that they create their homeland in the Holy Land.

The fortunes of the territorialist movement depended to no small degree on the seriousness of anti-Semitism on the one hand and the failure of the political dimension of Zionist activity on the other. So, for example, the movement's ranks swelled somewhat following the pogroms in 1905, but declined considerably after the securing of the Balfour Declaration.

Zangwill became the movement's undisputed leader. After the rejection of the Uganda scheme on the grounds of impracticability by the British, Zangwill turned his attention to settlement in Canada and Australia. But opposition from local residents led him to abandon the scheme. Expeditions were sent to Mesopotamia (Iraq), Cyrenaica (Libya) and Angola but little came of these expeditions.

A project that had some concrete success was the Galveston scheme which contemplated the settlement of Jews in the American Southwest, in particular in Texas. The project received the assistance of Jacob Schiff, the American Jewish banker, and some 9,300 Jews arrived in that area between 1907-1914, through the Emigration Bureau of the Territorialist organization.

With the publication of the Balfour Declaration, the ITO faced a severe crisis since many of its members came to the conclusion that Eretz-Israel was not so utopian after all. The organization's failure was due to its inability to secure a definite project, and its lack of sensitivity toward the historic and traditional sentiments of Jewish identity.
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And for those of you that wonder how the arabs have come to dominate the middle east and and beyond.

It started during the "Dark Ages" from 570-632 AD when the Prophet Muhammed formed the religion of Islam. This religion was adopted very quickly and spread from Mecca through middle east, North Africa and Spain until Southern France and Turkey and beyond.

The Faith was adopted by all of those peoples which would have previously been Jewish or Christians.

The only reason the the Arabs control so much land is because it is the youngest religion of all the abrahamic religions.and gained so many converts from the areas that it spread to.
 
marine1 said:
Uganda? ROFLMAO
Do you remember what happened there - raid on Entebe??
They are or were sympahtisers of the terrorist Hamass
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Hitler even proposed Madagascar so even he seemed to be even more sympathetic in comparison.
 
Fieldy said:
And for those of you that wonder how the arabs have come to dominate the middle east and and beyond.

It started during the "Dark Ages" from 570-632 AD when the Prophet Muhammed formed the religion of Islam. This religion was adopted very quickly and spread from Mecca through middle east, North Africa and Spain until Southern France and Turkey and beyond.

The Faith was adopted by all of those peoples which would have previously been Jewish or Christians.

The only reason the the Arabs control so much land is because it is the youngest religion of all the abrahamic religions.and gained so many converts from the areas that it spread to.
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you tend to forget teeny weeny details, such as that if you didn't convert they killed you, your family, your kids, your dog and buried your goldfish in the sand.....

i could google for you the hundreds and thousands that were killed and forced into Islam but I'm sure you know the real history:rolleyes:
 
Fieldy said:
And for those of you that wonder how the arabs have come to dominate the middle east and and beyond.

It started during the "Dark Ages" from 570-632 AD when the Prophet Muhammed formed the religion of Islam. This religion was adopted very quickly and spread from Mecca through middle east, North Africa and Spain until Southern France and Turkey and beyond.
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And still is.
 
I want a GTI said:
www.iamthewitness.com

From the americans themselves.
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All the Americans? All 300 million of them sat down and the best they came up with is that damn awful site.

I mean if you are doing a hate speech site, at least do it that it is aesthetically pleasing, I mean, that site is horrendous.

by the way, by Americans, you mean one faggot jew hating loser that is so patriotic that he lives in....France? So another anti semetic has a site - bully for him.

and yeh, I'm sure not every single American is pro Israel, so whats your point?

Anyhow next time you link to a hate speech site, as least try and find one that is pleasant to the eye, I'm still having nightmares from this one, and its not the content, that doesn't bother me, but the colour scheme, dude that is offensive!!!
 
marine1 said:
Bwahahaha the anti American quoting Americans? :D
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Oh assumptions assumptions. Im not anti-american, im anti-zionist and all those who pledge their allegiance to the occupiers.

A misguided, unfounded assumption like that, could be fatal in other circumstances.

You repeatedly emphasise on Islams aspiration-in your own words-to 'dominate the world'.

If you inspect the site closely, you will notice qoutes(I will qoute them if you still cant find them) from Israeli prime ministers making public statements with ambitions to 'dominate the world'. Even claiming a superiority of creed and race and using insects to describe the inferiority of all other races.

Yet there is no mention, from your side, of these aspirations?

Funnily enough, only Islam seeks world domination? Even after authentic qoutes, from the very people you so timidly attempt to defend, are put before you?

Your one sided, bias views have been exposed. For the sake of your own credibility and the credibility of your future posts, perhaps you should refrain from entering such debates as your arguments are weak and blatently biased.
You have mastered the art of double standards.

Save what little credibility your arguments have left, and stop posting.

That is all. Have a good day.
 
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