Israeli Elections

Vorastra said:
No.

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Literally one in the link you posted.

Chaled Kabub
Supreme Court Justice
Born in Israel in 1958. In 1975, he graduated from Ironi G’ High School in Tel Aviv-Jaffa. In 1981, he completed his history and Islamic studies at the Tel Aviv University. In 1988, he completed his law studies at the Tel Aviv University. During the years 1987 to 1989 he interned at a law firm and at the Tel Aviv Magistrate's Court. In 1989, he was admitted to the Israeli Bar.
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Nom Chompsky said:
I don't see the comparison at all. I mean the big differences are that Arabs are (a) allowed to vote and (b) can setup their own parties (unlike apartheid). Simply not wanting to be in coalition with Arab parties does not equate to apartheid. It's the political reality. Lots of political parties across the world will never go into coalition with other parties. Like the Greens in the UK will never go into coalition with Reform UK, for example.
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None of of those examples are based entirely on racial grounds. Sure it might not be legislated but it speaks volumes of how Arab Israeli's are viewed within Israel, if forming a coalition with them is taboo. Not to mention the fact that israeli's politicians tried to bad Arab parties from even standing in the election.
 
Cray said:
It would cease to exist as a state which affords more rights to Jews who haven't been near Israel in centuries versus Palestinians that were forced out less than 100 years ago. Perhas that Israel will cease to exist, to replaced by that treats all everyone equally.
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If only this were the case, but it's not. Unfortunately. And the right to return red herring being used fails to recognise the situation as it really is and how we got to where we are today.

First of all, none of the countries in the region existed prior to the 1st world war, they were allocated, carved up and created by the European powers dividing up the Ottoman Empire.

Then with several peoples being denied promised countries of their own, Jews and Kurds for example, and others majority Christian being mixed in with large minorty Muslim, like Lebanon (and the civil war that caused). Or indeed large Jewish populations like in South Iraq being mixed in with majority Muslim (same for Kurds in the north), a massive problem was created.

Millions were displaced, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Kurds etc, as the new countries established themselves.

Now tell me why the Palestinians, who were Egyptian and Jordanian citizens until 1967/1988, deserve a right to return when millions more were forced out of these other new countries with nothing but the clothes on their backs?
 
Spizz said:
If only this were the case, but it's not. Unfortunately. And the right to return red herring being used fails to recognise the situation as it really is and how we got to where we are today.

First of all, none of the countries in the region existed prior to the 1st world war, they were allocated, carved up and created by the European powers dividing up the Ottoman Empire.

Then with several peoples being denied promised countries of their own, Jews and Kurds for example, and others majority Christian being mixed in with large minorty Muslim, like Lebanon (and the civil war that caused). Or indeed large Jewish populations like in South Iraq being mixed in with majority Muslim (same for Kurds in the north), a massive problem was created.

Millions were displaced, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Kurds etc, as the new countries established themselves.

Now tell me why the Palestinians, who were Egyptian and Jordanian citizens until 1967/1988, deserve a right to return when millions more were forced So out of these other new countries with nothing but the clothes on their backs?
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People expect all sorts of injustices being perpatrated by dodgy countries, that it why they are dodgy. Israel seems to be the only country and perpetuates injustices while having a gaggle of cheerleaders telling us how awesome they are. We expect better things from democracies. If Israel wants to be see as an elightened western democracy, maybe it should start acting like one.
 
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Cray said:
People expect all sorts of injustices being perpatrated by dodgy countries, that it why they are dodgy. Israel seems to be the only coutry and perpetuates injustices while having a gaggle of cheerleaders telling us how awesome they are. We expect better things from democracies. If Israel wants to be see as an elightened western democracy, maybe it should start acting like one.
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No, the UN are the ones who perpetute this by cramming the Palestinians into refugee camps and giving them forever refugee status. And the countries with those camps are only too happy to leave them to live in schit so that they can further their political aspirations of destroying Israel.

As I've said before, why not allow refugee status and right of return for the 900,000 Jews kicked out of surrounding Muslim and Arab countries? Or indeed 250,000 Greek Cypriots kicked out of Northern Cyprus by the Turks. Of over 400,000 Finns kicked out of Karelia by the Russians?

Because it was war, and these things happen in every war. But yet only one group has perpetual refugees given status by the UN.

Makes you wonder, hey?
 
Spizz said:
Like you had an argument in the first place 😜
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My argument is that Jews hate Arabs, even the ones they let live there. Similar to blacks hate whites here.

My first post to you was them trying to ban Arab parties. Imagine the ANC trying to ban VF+.
 
Spizz said:
Of over 400,000 Finns kicked out of Karelia by the Russians?
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lol, the Finns evacuated their people because they wanted to leave after defeat. There was no order from the Soviet Union saying that Finns must leave. They were offered Soviet citizenship if they stayed.

They lost a war, the land was taken. They decided to leave.
 
Vorastra said:
They lost a war, the land was taken. They decided to leave.
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Ditto for Israel. The Arabs/Mossies have lost every war they started against Israel - impossible odds.
Instead of you harping on about justice,fairness, whatabouts , you should get on your effin knees and thank the Jewish State that every Arab wasn't/isn't ejected....never mind allowed voting rights!
 
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