Judge lambasts 'cowboy' cops

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THE time has come for courts to bring down the full wrath of the law on state officials who arrogantly breach consti-tutional imperatives, by acting with impunity and are not taken to task by government - mostly because of inability, unwillingness or political reasons.

Juicy story - unfortunately it is in the subscriber section of the Pretoria News. http://www.pretorianews.co.za/?fSectionId=1651&fArticleId=5685017

Might be free tomorrow... it is excellent news.

In a nutshell, a person was arrested and thrown into jail - but at his court case the judge ordered the officers involved to pay said person's court fees as this arrest was totally uncalled for.
 
I need a subscription for that? No thanks, I'll go elsewhere for my news.

Its time that we started doing something about these cops though. Too many of them are thugs and just give police a bad name. Where are the cops we can respect?
 
I'll just wait till it goes on IOL or News24.

But it is interesting, we need more judges who think like that... this nonsense must stop absolutely.
 
The_Librarian said:
THE time has come for courts to bring down the full wrath of the law on state officials who arrogantly breach consti-tutional imperatives, by acting with impunity and are not taken to task by government - mostly because of inability, unwillingness or political reasons.
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The problem is that ‘the full wrath of the law’ in SA is equal to a crippled mouse. However, it’s a fine crime syndicate and if you want someone mugged, it’s full of thugs whose rates are cheap.
 
Some of us have been saying that these cops especially the Metro Cops are a bunch of cowboys... but there was violent disagreement.

Anybody remember the lady on the M2 who was accused of trying to run over the cops? What every happened to that? Notice how nothing ever came of it.
 
There are still many good, hard working and dedicated police officers but like with any other organization, they are the silent majority who carry on diligently with their duties and do the good work that hardly ever gets any type of media attention.

Like I often point out, there is a reason why the prisons in this country are over flowing with inmates, and its not because these criminals have walked up and handed themselves over.... The problem is however that the few undisciplined members, who have become nothing more than power hungry criminals in uniform, have grabbed the headlines time after time, and have given the entire organization a bad name. Many, not all, but quite a few of these were NEVER actual policemen and women, but have come over from the old TBVC states or were members of the old APLA or MK organizations and accommodated in ranks that they should never have been awarded in the police.

This then also led to an erosion of the "core" of experienced and dedicated officers over the past decade or so, who had been informed in no uncertain terms that they had reached their ceiling and would go no further in the Police and had to sit back and watch as junior and inexperienced members were promoted into positions that they were not qualified for. The result: The Good left the Service to pursue careers in the private sector, The Bad then got worse and quickly progressed up the ranks into positions that enabled them to recruit more of the same who are in the Service for every other reason than their dedication to the law and serving society and The Ugly is the resultant headlines we see today.

I for one have decided that I am sick and tired of sitting on the side-lines complaining about this, watching how the standards of law enforcement in this country continue to fall because of all that I have stated above, and have this week submitted my papers for re-enlistment into the SAPS. Hopefully this way, I can start to make a small difference again and do my part to fight crime the way it should be in this country..... I honestly hope that the powers that be will now stop putting skin colour above quality of character and ability as a criteria to wear that uniform and do the job that this country needs to rescue it form the situation that it's in, and start approving applications like mine and the hundreds that I know about, so that we can actually start making a difference again!
 
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I for one have decided that I am sick and tired of sitting on the side-lines complaining about this, watching how the standards of law enforcement in this country continue to fall because of all that I have stated above, and have this week submitted my papers for re-enlistment into the SAPS. Hopefully this way, I can start to make a small difference again and do my part to fight crime the way it should be in this country..... I honestly hope that the powers that be will now stop putting skin colour above quality of character and ability as a criteria to wear that uniform and do the job that this country needs to rescue it form the situation that it's in, and start approving applications like mine and the hundreds that I know about, so that we can actually start making a difference again!
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There is an expression “You can’t fight city hall” to describe a single man’s efforts against overwhelming force. Your effort (while laudable) fits that description IMO. Have you (and others) thought of a vigilante squad? Judge, jury and executioner? Perhaps with the rhetoric of that black hit-man dude (Jules) in the Tarentino movie ‘Pulp Fiction’ before he starts blasting (Ezekiel) to formalise your actions?

Jules
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
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Palimino said:
There is an expression “You can’t fight city hall” to describe a single man’s efforts against overwhelming force.
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Yes, of course, that is true, however the intention is not to fight the "system" or "city hall" as you put it, but to make a difference. If one approaches something like this with the intention of fighting the system you will get nowhere nor will you achieve anything.

Quick story from my own past: Good few years ago I was working Christmas eve and was called out to a housebreaking. Someone broke in and stole every single Christmas present under the tree and the owners of the house were a couple with two young kids. To say the least, they were devastated! I took one look at those kids, the looks on their faces and the how distraught the parent were, and made them a promise to do what I could. My partner and I worked five hours past our shift, on Christmas, and found not only the suspect but recovered ALL the presents, which we then returned to an overjoyed family.

Now, I would not recognise them if I had to bump into them again, and they would not recognise me either, but they will always remember that day, as do I, and remember the fact that policemen wearing that blue uniform, that did that for them.

That is the change and difference that I want to start making again, small steps and if each of us can do something positive in our own small way, this country can be great again. May seem to be "lofty ideals" to you, but to me, its a start.
 
garyb01 said:
Yes, of course, that is true, however the intention is not to fight the "system" or "city hall" as you put it, but to make a difference. If one approaches something like this with the intention of fighting the system you will get nowhere nor will you achieve anything.

Quick story from my own past: Good few years ago I was working Christmas eve and was called out to a housebreaking. Someone broke in and stole every single Christmas present under the tree and the owners of the house were a couple with two young kids. To say the least, they were devastated! I took one look at those kids, the looks on their faces and the how distraught the parent were, and made them a promise to do what I could. My partner and I worked five hours past our shift, on Christmas, and found not only the suspect but recovered ALL the presents, which we then returned to an overjoyed family.

Now, I would not recognise them if I had to bump into them again, and they would not recognise me either, but they will always remember that day, as do I, and remember the fact that policemen wearing that blue uniform, that did that for them.

That is the change and difference that I want to start making again, small steps and if each of us can do something positive in our own small way, this country can be great again. May seem to be "lofty ideals" to you, but to me, its a start.
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Down our way, drive-by shootings at the homes of good cops, and death threats, are par for the course... If you can stand against that and still hang on to your ideals I can only applaud you....
 
garyb01 said:
Now, I would not recognise them if I had to bump into them again, and they would not recognise me either, but they will always remember that day, as do I, and remember the fact that policemen wearing that blue uniform, that did that for them.

That is the change and difference that I want to start making again, small steps and if each of us can do something positive in our own small way, this country can be great again. May seem to be "lofty ideals" to you, but to me, its a start.
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I salute you!

Reminds me of a story about a kid throwing something back into the sea but I can't remember the details, once I do I will repost.
 
garyb01 said:
May seem to be "lofty ideals" to you, but to me, its a start.
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Every effort helps. My ideals are not particularly “lofty”. I am just partial to getting all old testament on a scumbuckets ass. I am not qualified (and have no inclination) to judge anyway

”Non illigitimati carborundum”
 
ponder said:
I salute you!

Reminds me of a story about a kid throwing something back into the sea but I can't remember the details, once I do I will repost.
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This is the story of the starfish.. the beached starfish with one kid throwing them back one at a time and an old man watching her basically says there are so many how can she make a difference, she picks up one and looking at him as she throws it into the water says "it will make a difference to this one".
 
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