Kasrils on SABC3 - Interface

[Grant]

well, the man is laying into the anc & elpresidente on corruption thick & fast while essop pahad sits there with a mouth full of teeth.

 

[Flanders]

Pahad...what a tosser.

 

[Grant]

interesting "debate" - what i caught of it.

expected to kasrils to go gently, but he got stuck in, great reference to corruption at the "very top" and the whole way down.
certainly did not mince his words when it came to nkandla & marikana

i have not been following the marikana hearings, but i get the impression the testimony of mr "x" is going to be interesting

 

[OrbitalDawn]

interesting "debate" - what i caught of it.

expected to kasrils to go gently, but he got stuck in, great reference to corruption at the "very top" and the whole way down.
certainly did not mince his words when it came to nkandla & marikana

i have not been following the marikana hearings, but i get the impression the testimony of mr "x" is going to be interesting

Which is of course why Mr. Mpofu is doing his damndest to discredit him. He hates it when the miners aren't portrayed as poor innocent victims.

 

[daveza]

So it's okay for Kasrils to slag off the anc but the DA is not allowed to take part in SABC debates ?

 

[Grant]

So it's okay for Kasrils to slag off the anc but the DA is not allowed to take part in SABC debates ?

i suspect sabc tried to muzzle kasrils at some point

in the middle of saying something, the theme music of interface suddenly came in, the presenter looked agitated & suddenly announced an ad break

 

[bgotapen]

What many don't understand is that the censorship powers from the then NP government still exists to this day. They are just the ANC's now.

He said what the anc wanted him to say, end of story...

 

[nightjar]

well, the man is laying into the anc & elpresidente on corruption thick & fast while essop pahad sits there with a mouth full of teeth.

RW Johnson's open letter to the former minister on his Vote No campaign highlights Kasrils' indifference to corruption while he was feeding off the gravy train.

Dear Ronnie, have you only just discovered the ANC is corrupt? - RW Johnson

Dear Ronnie

Thanks for the letter suggesting I might like to spoil my ballot. Ironically enough, it comes not long after a friend who is in COPE told me he wouldn't be voting at all this time, and not long after I had decided I could not vote DA this time. How could I possibly vote for a party which praises Thabo Mbeki whose Aids denialism cost the lives of over 360,000 African women and children? I can't vote for that in just the same way that I couldn't vote for a party which praised Hitler.

But I am surprised by your attitude, for you sound so indignant about the corruption of the ANC regime. Yet how could you possibly have expected anything else, Ronnie?

Let me go back to the early 1960s in Durban when we first met. We have been friends for over 50 years now. In those days we saw pretty much eye to eye and we both supported the ANC. Then you went underground and resurfaced in London at about the same time that I arrived there in 1964. My assumption then was that I would continue to support the ANC and I spent some time in ANC circles in London. It was a rude shock. The people I met were completely authoritarian - there wasn't a proper democrat among them. Many were openly racist. And already corruption was visible. The one thing that seemed obvious was that you couldn't trust people like that. They might get up to absolutely anything. So I recoiled and realised that I had been attracted by the romantic myth of the ANC. The reality was something else again.

Rest of letter here:
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politi...utm_campaign=06de7bcc62-DHN_April_16_2014&utm

 

[nightjar]

So while I'm glad you are against this corruption and inequality, I do find it very hard to believe that it is a surprise to you. Surely you knew that was exactly what you were working towards in all your years of the ANC? You must have had a class analysis of the situation in your mind, surely? And anyway, you were a junior minister to Joe Modise, the most corrupt thug of the lot. You must have been aware that he was behind the huge corruption of the arms deal, just like you must have known that he had tried to kill Chris Hani, that he had run the stolen cars racket in Zambia and, quite certainly, that he was on BOSS's payroll. I simply cannot believe that anyone could be so stupid or naive as not to know those things, Ronnie. If you didn't know those things it has to be because you didn't want to know them.
http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politi...il&utm_term=0_a86f25db99-06de7bcc62-130029393

Clive Derby Lewis could probably add a lot to this, which is the reason why he will die in prison rather than be allowed to say anything that might embarrass any ANC members, living and dead.

 

[TelkomUseless]

Clive Derby Lewis could probably add a lot to this, which is the reason why he will die in prison rather than be allowed to say anything that might embarrass any ANC members, living and dead.

yip.

And shows you how they (Kasrils etc) knows about the corruption (and don't care). They want to enrich themselves..