Kusile pollution concerns

[porchrat]

Show me where they are reusing it.

A list of sites doing reprocessing today is on Wikipedia:

Nuclear reprocessing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This sort of thing is only going to become more commonplace as fuel prices climb.

You can drop radioactivity dangers in spent fuel from hundreds of thousands of years to just hundreds by reusing the fuel.

 

[porchrat]

The world also recovers a hell of a lot faster from fossil fuel abuse than it does from nuclear abuse.

When did the world recover from fossil fuel abuse?

Did I miss the period in human history where we stopped using fossil fuels and then started again?

 

[The Voice]

Do you want clean air, or do you want (some) power right now?

 

[Lupus]

When did the world recover from fossil fuel abuse?

Did I miss the period in human history where we stopped using fossil fuels and then started again?

There is a theory that there might have been another advanced civ about 55m years ago. There are layers that correspond to pretty much what we're doing to the earth now. Higher green house gasses, low ocean oxygen levels, mass species extinction

 

[porchrat]

There is a theory that there might have been another advanced civ about 55m years ago. There are layers that correspond to pretty much what we're doing to the earth now. Higher green house gasses, low ocean oxygen levels, mass species extinction

Probably the lizard people. Amazing that the illuminati can trace their origins back that far.

 

[Lupus]

Probably the lizard people. Amazing that the illuminati can trace their origins back that far.

Strange that was one of the pitched species

 

[Swa]

thank you for you sacrifice - at present , with no real alternatives, economic activity trumps health issues. should never have gotten to this , but here we are.

The economy will always trump some health and other issues, it's only a matter of which ones are important and what the economy can absorb. With Covid we actually saw how far it can go.

The containment drums can withstand middle strikes, trains, planes and quite a few things they've thrown at them... This isn't the Simpsons they aren't stored in yellow barrels with green Goo

Yet some of those already have them concerned with signs of leakage or disintegration.

So the world population is projected to shrink in the mean time - and it is prefered that people die in the future from radiation cancer than coal cause cancer now.

What everyone is ignoring is not the future danger of nuclear but the immediate one. There has been three major events already not counting all the near events. All three of these alone should have ended the nuclear program but didn't because of coverups at the time in order to make it commonplace. Storage might not have been a concern if it was all in one place but it's being spread out. All of the solutions being punted are just proof of concepts at the moment and not being commercially produced.

If you ignore all the unfounded climate crisis claims then the only danger from coal is the particles which are easily taken care off. But the biggest killer of nuclear is not the danger but the practicality. If the whole world switched to nuclear it would only last 100 years. It's the least renewable form of energy. It's also only practical for base load. The countries who switched to nuclear at deep regret were only able to do so as they had other countries to bail them out and are now scaling back. If it was SA we would be properly fcked as there are no countries to supply us with energy.

 

[porchrat]

Strange that was one of the pitched species

It always is.

 

[wingnut771]

So you didn't watch the video

Which power station is recycling waste?

 

[wingnut771]

Yeah 100 000 years for the earth is fast

What Happens AFTER Global Warming?

What happens to our heat-trapping fossil fuel emissions after we release them, how long will they persist, and what might life be like in a warming - and then cooling - world?

www.nature.com

Major climate changes inevitable and irreversible – IPCC’s starkest warning yet

Report warns temperatures likely to rise by more than 1.5C bringing widespread extreme weather

www.theguardian.com

Irreversible

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0812721106#:~:text=Irreversible%20Climate%20Change%3A%20Sea%20Level,but%20is%20also%20very%20uncertain

Yet you're panicking about waste we actively trace, mark and know about, plus even 70 years of nuclear power all the high level nuclear waste is a football field.

Perpetual motion would be invented before nuclear power replaces everything.

 

[wingnut771]

A list of sites doing reprocessing today is on Wikipedia:

Nuclear reprocessing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This sort of thing is only going to become more commonplace as fuel prices climb.

You can drop radioactivity dangers in spent fuel from hundreds of thousands of years to just hundreds by reusing the fuel.

Which power station is using this fuel?

 

[wingnut771]

The economy will always trump some health and other issues, it's only a matter of which ones are important and what the economy can absorb. With Covid we actually saw how far it can go.


Yet some of those already have them concerned with signs of leakage or disintegration.


What everyone is ignoring is not the future danger of nuclear but the immediate one. There has been three major events already not counting all the near events. All three of these alone should have ended the nuclear program but didn't because of coverups at the time in order to make it commonplace. Storage might not have been a concern if it was all in one place but it's being spread out. All of the solutions being punted are just proof of concepts at the moment and not being commercially produced.

If you ignore all the unfounded climate crisis claims then the only danger from coal is the particles which are easily taken care off. But the biggest killer of nuclear is not the danger but the practicality. If the whole world switched to nuclear it would only last 100 years. It's the least renewable form of energy. It's also only practical for base load. The countries who switched to nuclear at deep regret were only able to do so as they had other countries to bail them out and are now scaling back. If it was SA we would be properly fcked as there are no countries to supply us with energy.

Yeah, when is the one in Ukraine going to go into melt-down?

 

[wingnut771]

not yet like the video states the nuclear plants development followed the route of one use so the containers just has to last long enough for us to realise or take advantage of what we have

Exactly, its all academic.

 

[leon.davibe]

Exactly, its all academic.

The intel 4004 was academic before it was real 2300 transistors 1971

1989 486 1.2-1.6m transistors count 18 years later

20 years later 2009 core i7 860 transistor count 774m

14 years later 14900 core i9 2.95B transistor count

Never underestimate academics and the rate of advancement

 

[Swa]

The intel 4004 was academic before it was real 2300 transistors 1971

1989 486 1.2-1.6m transistors count 18 years later

20 years later 2009 core i7 860 transistor count 774m

14 years later 14900 core i9 2.95B transistor count

Never underestimate academics

And how many things never pan out?

 

[wingnut771]

The intel 4004 was academic before it was real 2300 transistors 1971

1989 486 1.2-1.6m transistors count 18 years later

20 years later 2009 core i7 860 transistor count 774m

14 years later 14900 core i9 2.95B transistor count

Never underestimate academics and the rate of advancement

Nobody's got time for that.

 

[Heisenborg]

The intel 4004 was academic before it was real 2300 transistors 1971

1989 486 1.2-1.6m transistors count 18 years later

20 years later 2009 core i7 860 transistor count 774m

14 years later 14900 core i9 2.95B transistor count

Never underestimate academics and the rate of advancement

Wtaf

 

[porchrat]

Which power station is using this fuel?

I don't follow.

They're reclaiming the unspent fissile material and repurposing it into new fuel. You'd be hard pressed to find a single power station in Japan that didn't have some significant portion of their fuel store made up of fuel sourced from reprocessing.

Any thermal reactor power station can use it. It's just like first life nuclear fuel.

You think places like Japan with fsck all resources and space to store their waste are reprocessing this stuff into usable fuel and then just what... leaving it sitting on the floor?

Their national nuclear fuel policy is closed. They're in the process of ramping up this approach, not down.

For a place like Japan, with no local source of uranium, and having to import everything, this approach just makes more and more sense.

 

[RedViking]

I visited Loy Yang coal plant in Australia last year. This was a sign at their observation point. As someone wrote on it in the coal dust, this is what you are breathing in.

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Thats your windows waking up in Richards Bay after cleaning it the previous day

 

[Swa]

I don't follow.

They're reclaiming the unspent fissile material and repurposing it into new fuel. You'd be hard pressed to find a single power station in Japan that didn't have some significant portion of their fuel store made up of fuel sourced from reprocessing.

Any thermal reactor power station can use it. It's just like first life nuclear fuel.

You think places like Japan with fsck all resources and space to store their waste are reprocessing this stuff into usable fuel and then just what... leaving it sitting on the floor?

Their national nuclear fuel policy is closed. They're in the process of ramping up this approach, not down.

For a place like Japan, with no local source of uranium, and having to import everything, this approach just makes more and more sense.

Nobody is denying that used fuel can be used again, to a degree. We're still waiting for these radiation eating reactors and then a way to turn storage sites into greenfield status. It's still proof of concept with no commercially sold reactor on the horizon.