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dazzazzad

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Hi guys. I am utterly clueless when it comes to networks and routers. I think I completely fluked myself this far.

My pc is connected a router via an ethernet cable. No problems.

My uncle then needed the net so I connected his computer to the router with another ethernet. I did this awhile back but can't remember having any difficulties.

In the interim period I set up route sentry on just my pc. That works fine and my uncle sharing the connection also works without a hitch.

Which brings me my current situation. My dad just got his first laptop and I want to connect it to the router to share my net, just like with my uncle.

I followed the manuals instructions but this time, while the laptop can access the router settings (and the router does say 3 ethernet cables are connected) I'm just having no luck with an internet connection.

I would really appreciate any ideas as to where I might be going wrong.
 
If you are using Route Sentry, you must be making your own connections to the net. Chances are that your uncle is doing the same. If you have set your Dad up in the same way, you might just find that your ISP does not allow 3 or more concurrent connections.

Alternatively, if you and your uncle are using RASPPPOE connections (required for Route Sentry) simply connecting up another computer to the network will not allow it to share your internet connection. It needs to dial up to an ISP itself.
 
Gatecrasher said:
If you are using Route Sentry, you must be making your own connections to the net. Chances are that your uncle is doing the same. If you have set your Dad up in the same way, you might just find that your ISP does not allow 3 or more concurrent connections.

Alternatively, if you and your uncle are using RASPPPOE connections (required for Route Sentry) simply connecting up another computer to the network will not allow it to share your internet connection. It needs to dial up to an ISP itself.
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My uncle isn't using route sentry and RASPPPOE, its just me.

I'm using SAIX through Openweb, anyone know if the concurrent connections is the problem? I tried removing my pc to see if it had something to do with that but it didn't seem to help any.
 
dazzazzad said:
My uncle isn't using route sentry and RASPPPOE, its just me.
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But is your uncle making a dialup connection from his PC, or is the router making the connection? i.e. are Account details entered into the router? Or on a connection icon on his desktop?

Is the router in bridged mode? Or half-bridged mode? If your uncle does have to connect from his pc, then your Dad will have to do so too.

dazzazzad said:
I'm using SAIX through Openweb, anyone know if the concurrent connections is the problem? I tried removing my pc to see if it had something to do with that but it didn't seem to help any.
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SAIX will generally allow 4 concurrent connections, so this is probably not the problem.
 
My uncle has gone to bed (his lights on the router have gone off) so I tried again but still nothing :-/
 
If your router is half-bridged; both making its own connection and allowing other connections to be made, then your Dad should have no trouble sharing the router's connection.

More likely, however, if the router is bridged, your uncle is making his own connection and the router cannot see the internet at all. In this case, your dad would have to connect to internet in the same way as your uncle does, or in the same way that you do.
 
I'm pretty certain my uncle connects through the router. He doesn't dial up like I do with RASPPPOE.
 
Azrael said:
And your uncle's setup is the same, he's using the router as his gateway? Can you ping the router from your dad's laptop, also try pinging any external address (www.google.com)?
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Yes, it should be setup the same. The problem is I did my uncles pc over a year ago so maybe I missed a vital step this time.

For pinging the router do you ping the gateway address? That works fine.

Pinging google gets me "Ping request could not find host".
 
Hmm, the evidence points to likelyhood that your uncle does make his own connection. But it is possibly configured to connect atomatically on login, so he doesn't have to personally connect.

Regardless of that, what happens if you run the connection wizard (make a new connection) on your Dad's laptop and provide the main account details? Does it connect?
 
Gatecrasher said:
Hmm, the evidence points to likelyhood that your uncle does make his own connection. But it is possibly configured to connect atomatically on login, so he doesn't have to personally connect.

Regardless of that, what happens if you run the connection wizard (make a new connection) on your Dad's laptop and provide the main account details? Does it connect?
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I should have thought to try that. Yeah, it works. Not quite what I had in mind but all that matters is that the net works on his laptop. Many thanks.
 
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