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Mayh3m

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Hi Everyone

Not sure if this has been asked or covered before - perhaps someone can point me to the correct thread if it has:

I would like to join the Johannesburg Wireless group but I would just like to know how everyone is getting away with the whole setup from a legal point of view.
As far as i knew, crossing a street with any kind of connection was illegal. Even it was wireless.
Please could someone point me to some vaild legal documentation concerning this.

Thanks for the help

Regards
Brendon
 
If you run it as a business and charge other people for internet access while crossing any public roads / borders, it is definetely illegal.

Even with a VANS license, you may run into trouble concerning leasing part of your ADSL line.
 
MobileAllOver nope, phone Charles King who heads the
Global digital hub project. His PTN license will cover you.
Just check out my other thread: Permission to cut road in Pretoria.
Pick up the phone and ask King Charles himself!
Charles King 012 358 5702
Email: [email protected]
 
http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/telecoms/2005/0502111239.asp?S=Business&A=BUS&O=S

“Bold steps have been taken to further liberalise the telecommunications industry. We believe that the unacceptable situation in which some of our fixed-line rates are 10 times those of developed countries will soon become a thing of the past,” he said."
Plans have been approved for the construction of hundreds more such centres, so that by the end of the decade, each municipality would have a one-stop government hub,” he said.

And we can all connect,expand to and from this government hub.
Indeed Pres.Mbeki have taken a Bold step: The complete big-bang
liberalisation of Telecoms!
 
He said this a year ago and still we are waiting for action. The only Government hub currently in operation is at Telkom and this one is a total rip-off.
 
Pimal each council has it's own digital hub project.
Through tremendous difficulty I finally managed to get hold of Pretoria's
Digital Hub manager. You just need to get hold of Nelspruit/Durban/Jhb or
where-ever you are, designated GDH manager. And good luck in finding this
person. Just don't expect www.itweb.co.za to publish their contact
details.

Then you simply build your telephone exhange in partnership with this
government agent. We have the full support of Mr.Mbeki, nothing can
stop us now.
 
captainwifi said:
nothing can
stop us now.

we still waiting for your pictures of cutting through roads to create this telephone network you have spent so much time telling us about
 
So far, it doesn't seem that this Charles King guy even exists.

captainwifi's been spending too much time hiding in bushes, spying on Telkom techies, surrounded by khakibos.
 
Email him

Daffy perhaps if you would email him it would help.
With probably the whole country phoning him by now he would not
be inclined to repeat the same story over and over.

I suggest to council that they put the details of the GDH on their webpage.
And take note that Thabo Mbeki want's every council to have a digital hub
before the end of 2010.
 
4 emails now.. and no reply

Proof (just incase you needed more) that captainwifi isn't all there....
 
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=258294&area=/insight/insight__economy__business/
http://www.computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/default/EDE4447FB754AD2ECC2570980063278C
http://www.storm.co.za/viewarticle.q?articleId=164
"...Storm is running pilot projects in conjunction with the City of Tshwane municipality, testing a variety of technologies such as wireless, power-grid communcation and fibre optic cables.

Charles Kuun, head of the Tshwane Digital Hub, said it began investigating the potential for utilising spare infrastructure capacity to provide affordable telecoms six years ago. Kuun said the municipality's motives are purely socio-economic. 'We look at it as an enabler of growth. We believe the country can reach an 8% growth rate if municipalities get involved in this," says Kuun. "

Gale said Storm had held talks with the City of Johannesburg, City of Cape Town, eThekwini, Stellen-bosch, Paarl and Somerset West.

=============================

Storm I think you and Daffy suffer both from some sort of physcological
impairment. City of Tshwane is running these pilot projects in conjunction with you and will run them with anybody else. They don't have a special
relationship with you or anybody else- why should they? They have their own PTN license, under which Cue Incident built their telephone exchange.

All of us can now legally build telephone exchanges without a Vans license. This was the thrust of what Charles Kuun told me over the phone. Why would I lie about this? Eventually it would be exposed.
 
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By the lords of <insert_religious_orientation>... I *help* you, by giving you the name of the ACTUAL person that you were crazily (and incorrectly) waffling on about, then you google a bit, and then you find some way of distorting it so that Daffy, one of the founding members of Jawug is somehow "implicated" in your crazy conspiracy theories?

One doesn't even have to spend 3 minutes on this thread to see that the real danger, CaptainWifi, is YOU. I'm now tired of your crap.

You are a cook. You are a conspiracy theorist. You are bringing nothing of value to us, except insulting well-respected members of this community.

I am going to motivate to MyADSL as a populous, that your contribution to these forums are finished, of little value, and generally harmful.

As such, I believe that a healthy action for the community would be for us to REMOVE YOU FROM IT. If you'd like to start a conspiracy theorist forum somewhere, I'm sure there are many ISPs that will help you out for a few bucks a month. Of course, this will not satisfy you, and you will sign up back here again under an alias, and we will discover you again, and ban you again.

Thank your for your destructive contribution. Please begone, or behave like a human. This is not censorship. This is people telling you that we've had enough of you.

Cheers.
RoDent.
 
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Mayh3m said:
I would like to join the Johannesburg Wireless group but I would just like to know how everyone is getting away with the whole setup from a legal point of view.
As far as i knew, crossing a street with any kind of connection was illegal. Even it was wireless.
Please could someone point me to some vaild legal documentation concerning this.

Thanks for the help

seems like things went a bit off the subject. Did you find the information you needed.

When will you be putting up your node :)
 
TheRoDent said:
By the lords of <insert_religious_orientation>... I *help* you, by giving you the name of the ACTUAL person that you were crazily (and incorrectly) waffling on about, then you google a bit, and then you find some way of distorting it so that Daffy, one of the founding members of Jawug is somehow "implicated" in your crazy conspiracy theories?

One doesn't even have to spend 3 minutes on this thread to see that the real danger, CaptainWifi, is YOU. I'm now tired of your crap.

You are a cook. You are a conspiracy theorist. You are bringing nothing of value to us, except insulting well-respected members of this community.

I am going to motivate to MyADSL as a populous, that your contribution to these forums are finished, of little value, and generally harmful.

As such, I believe that a healthy action for the community would be for us to REMOVE YOU FROM IT. If you'd like to start a conspiracy theorist forum somewhere, I'm sure there are many ISPs that will help you out for a few bucks a month. Of course, this will not satisfy you, and you will sign up back here again under an alias, and we will discover you again, and ban you again.

Thank your for your destructive contribution. Please begone, or behave like a human. This is not censorship. This is people telling you that we've had enough of you.

Cheers.
RoDent.

I second this!
 
Nice edit there of your post, CaptainWifi. Removing your remarks somehow implicating Daffy in a vast conspiracy.
 
From now on, every time someone replies to captainwifi, please quote his entire post for accuracy.
 
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