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DylanS

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Hello,

I have got a 17-85mm IS USM lens that I won, and I just want to know where I can get rid of it, I have tried Gumtree, ODP, ORMS (offered R1500), trade in a GAME.

I just cant seem to get rid of it I am asking R3500 on gumtree.
Any advice?

Thanks
 
what should I ask 2.5k?
Issue with these non popular lenses
 
It's not a bad lens but it's one of those lenses which doesn't really excel at anything.
- It's EF-S so you can't keep it if you upgrade to full frame and you've just ruled out most professional or serious amateur photographers using the EF mount.
- It has a useful focal range as a general walk-around-lens but has a very restrictive aperture (can't do shallow DOF like the 17-55 f2.8, doesn't stop action very well in low light, etc.).

Considering you won it, you're losing nothing by selling it for anything more than R0. :p
 
I'm not sure I'm reading your post correctly, but are you saying that professionals and serious amateurs only use/want to use full frame cameras? Cause that's not true. Wildlife photographers generally stick to crop sensors for the added reach given by the crop factor. The 17-85mm IS USM is probably the perfect lens for a good number of people either starting out or wanting a cheap, general lens for everything from landscapes to portraits.
 
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I'm not sure I'm reading your post correctly, but are you saying that professionals and serious amateurs only use/want to use full frame cameras? Cause that's not true. Wildlife photographers generally stick to crop sensors for the added reach given by the crop factor. The 17-85mm IS USM is probably the perfect lens for a good number of people either starting out or wanting a cheap, general lens for everything from landscapes to portraits.
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The professional wildlife guys we've worked recently on a documentary used the 1DX and 5D MkII/III. They already own lenses from years of wildlife photography, and prefer the better sensors (especially better image quality at higher ISO's), and fast shooting offered in full frame camera's.

They never chose camera's based on crop factor - you just by an extender if you don't have the lens you need - but then most professionals will have all the lenses.
 
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If you page through a photography/wildlife magazine, a very large number (as in most) of the wildlife shots are done using the 7D/70D/60D and a focal length between 400 and 600mm, very occasionally even with a 1.4x/2x teleconverter. You won't get that kind of reach with a full frame camera unless it's something like the 36MP D800 where you can crop in tightly without sacrificing too much detail. The money spent on that camera is better spent on some decent glass, especially when you read the settings used (from the top of my head, most often ISO 800 and below unless it's a BIF shot).
 
Oj0 said:
If you page through a photography/wildlife magazine, a very large number (as in most) of the wildlife shots are done using the 7D/70D/60D
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Aren't those submitted images from readers?

Throw a 1.4x/2.0x extender onto a 600mm lens, then you're sorted, providing you have ample light.
 
Not all of them. A 600mm with 2x converter gets you an effective 1200mm, that can't compete with 1920mm using the same combo on a 7D.
 
Oj0 said:
I'm not sure I'm reading your post correctly, but are you saying that professionals and serious amateurs only use/want to use full frame cameras? Cause that's not true.
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Read carefully. I said most - not all, want to stick to EF mount (regardless of body/frame type).
I have yet to meet a professional photographer who has invested in mediocre EF-S lenses like this 17-85 we're talking about.
Wedding photographers and media crews generally pick the 24-70 f2.8 and 70-200 f2.8 EF mount lenses.
Sports photographers tend to go for fast zoom lenses in the f4 or better range.
Wildlife photographers tend to go for long focal range lenses also all EF mount.
Where would a proffesional or serious amateur photographer use this EF-S 17-85mm lens?
 
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Not all of them. A 600mm with 2x converter gets you an effective 1200mm, that can't compete with 1920mm using the same combo on a 7D.
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You're basing it all on the idea that the photographer actually wants to be at 1920mm when in reality it's just another focal length.

After lots of testing this summer I know that I'd rather shoot cricket with a 2.0x tc on my 400mm with a FF than with the same lens and a 1.4 on my 7D even if it means sacrificing that extra 96mm and a stop of light because the image quality is that much better.

@OP - try R2000-2500 - you might get a few more nibbles.
 
No I'm not, I'm saying that crop can have far greater reach.

Very few of the wildlife shots I've seen were taken with a full frame camera.
 
Oj0 said:
No I'm not, I'm saying that crop can have far greater reach.

Very few of the wildlife shots I've seen were taken with a full frame camera.
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They can but that's not necessarily a good thing.
 
1920mm sounds real cool. But for practical use , methinks not . Perhaps in cold , clear conditions on a very stable tripod , remote release and all that it can work. A good thing to remember is when using a fixed focus is to zoom with your feet. But wragtig , with 1920 mm you will need to zoom with your car ( in reverse gear )
Ok , just having a poke here at the long lens brigade .

Yet it will be very informative to see results from such an setup .
 
The arguments about frame size aside.
I prefer EF mounts. Those lenses are generally much more useful, and better too.
I have only one EF-S mount lens, and its a kit lens.
 
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1920mm sounds real cool. But for practical use , methinks not . Perhaps in cold , clear conditions on a very stable tripod , remote release and all that it can work. A good thing to remember is when using a fixed focus is to zoom with your feet. But wragtig , with 1920 mm you will need to zoom with your car ( in reverse gear )
Ok , just having a poke here at the long lens brigade .

Yet it will be very informative to see results from such an setup .
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I can show you what 1120/1456/1792mm (FF/APS-H/APS-C) looks like… :D

Wont be able to use a tripod for obvious reasons.
 
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