Level 7 - Wisp or Fibre provider?

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stfenix

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Hi,

I need the opinion of the masses here.
I live in a complex where Level-7 is the only ISP.
They installed a fiber network on the inside of the Complex that terminates in their onsite PoP that connects to a 5Ghz and 2.4GHz Antenna to provide access to their network. So there is NO fibre pulled in from the curb. Can they sell this as FTTH even though the fiber connection does not leave the complex? They are adamant that this is a FTTH service, even though it gets a bit wonky in heavy weather.

In my personal opinion no, but I would like the input of the community on this.

Regards StFenix.
 
Fiber to the x or fiber in the loop is a generic term for any broadband network architecture using optical fiber to provide all or part of the local loop used for last mile telecommunications.

You have fibre in the last mile so therefor its FTTH ?
 
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stfenix said:
Hi,

I need the opinion of the masses here.
I live in a complex where Level-7 is the only ISP.
They installed a fiber network on the inside of the Complex that terminates in their onsite PoP that connects to a 5Ghz and 2.4GHz Antenna to provide access to their network. So there is NO fibre pulled in from the curb. Can they sell this as FTTH even though the fiber connection does not leave the complex? They are adamant that this is a FTTH service, even though it gets a bit wonky in heavy weather.

In my personal opinion no, but I would like the input of the community on this.

Regards StFenix.
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ask them if you can run a cat5 cable to their switch
 
stfenix said:
Hi,

I need the opinion of the masses here.
I live in a complex where Level-7 is the only ISP.
They installed a fiber network on the inside of the Complex that terminates in their onsite PoP that connects to a 5Ghz and 2.4GHz Antenna to provide access to their network. So there is NO fibre pulled in from the curb. Can they sell this as FTTH even though the fiber connection does not leave the complex? They are adamant that this is a FTTH service, even though it gets a bit wonky in heavy weather.

In my personal opinion no, but I would like the input of the community on this.

Regards StFenix.
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Sounds like they are using a netPower from Mikrotik. So fiber terminates to their box unit and from that unit they rebroadcast from that station to everyone in the complex? What complex is this? area? But to answer your question they can probably call it FTTH if from that point they primarily use the fiber as the main provider and when the fiber is offline they use the dishes as a backup solution. (sounds like the fiber goes offline from time to time)

I am a little confused though, do they sell to the complex using this point cause it sounds like they use the same spot to provide other towers/people in the area with that breakout.
 
HartsockZA said:
Sounds like they are using a netPower from Mikrotik. So fiber terminates to their box unit and from that unit they rebroadcast from that station to everyone in the complex? What complex is this? area? But to answer your question they can probably call it FTTH if from that point they primarily use the fiber as the main provider and when the fiber is offline they use the dishes as a backup solution. (sounds like the fiber goes offline from time to time)

I am a little confused though, do they sell to the complex using this point cause it sounds like they use the same spot to provide other towers/people in the area with that breakout.
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explaining things has never been my strong suite :D
There is no fiber coming in to the complex. L7 installed a distribution box that is connected to their network( WWW) via a dish. They then proceeded to connect all the units to their distribution box via fibre so for all intesive purposes the complex internal network is fiber but the backhaul is Wireless.

They are selling this service as FTTH at FTTH premiums. Which is not pure FTTH imo.
 
stfenix said:
explaining things has never been my strong suite :D
There is no fiber coming in to the complex. L7 installed a distribution box that is connected to their network( WWW) via a dish. They then proceeded to connect all the units to their distribution box via fibre so for all intesive purposes the complex internal network is fiber but the backhaul is Wireless.

They are selling this service as FTTH at FTTH premiums. Which is not pure FTTH imo.
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Does it make a difference to you? Or whats the issue is it slow?
 
stfenix said:
explaining things has never been my strong suite :D
There is no fiber coming in to the complex. L7 installed a distribution box that is connected to their network( WWW) via a dish. They then proceeded to connect all the units to their distribution box via fibre so for all intesive purposes the complex internal network is fiber but the backhaul is Wireless.

They are selling this service as FTTH at FTTH premiums. Which is not pure FTTH imo.
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Yea I'll agree with you that is not FTTH or at least fiber in its true form. How cheeky I always refer clients to them if I can't provide. Very strange
 
HartsockZA said:
I think the OP did mention that it likes going down and wanted everyone opinion if you could call that ftth and charge at that level.
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@mono2 many of the owners are complaining as everyone has been sold the idea that they have FTTH, which makes it painfull to explain why their "FTTH" drops when the weather picks up. Even when speaking to the L7 support team, they are adament that it FTTH regardless that that the backhaul connection is Wireless which also leaves a bit of a wtf taste.
 
Its like hooking up a satellite connection to my PC and calling it a high speed LAN connection. BS.

ASA should have fun with this.

Report them.
 
Rickster said:
Its like hooking up a satellite connection to my PC and calling it a high speed LAN connection. BS.

ASA should have fun with this.

Report them.
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But if your satellite connection does 1000mbps then its high speed right?
 
stfenix said:
Hi,

I need the opinion of the masses here.
I live in a complex where Level-7 is the only ISP.
They installed a fiber network on the inside of the Complex that terminates in their onsite PoP that connects to a 5Ghz and 2.4GHz Antenna to provide access to their network. So there is NO fibre pulled in from the curb. Can they sell this as FTTH even though the fiber connection does not leave the complex? They are adamant that this is a FTTH service, even though it gets a bit wonky in heavy weather.

In my personal opinion no, but I would like the input of the community on this.

Regards StFenix.
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I wonder if we live in the same complex... All this applies to me. Our internet works really well in general. But it falls over when it rains. I thought I had "real" fiber for a while till I spotted the dish and asked someone.
 
kfc4unme said:
I wonder if we live in the same complex... All this applies to me. Our internet works really well in general. But it falls over when it rains. I thought I had "real" fiber for a while till I spotted the dish and asked someone.
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If you live in Hennops then probably :D Sad thing is. there is fibre right around our complex. just us that are "not" covered.
 
stfenix said:
They installed a fiber network on the inside of the Complex that terminates in their onsite PoP that connects to a 5Ghz and 2.4GHz Antenna to provide access to their network. So there is NO fibre pulled in from the curb. Can they sell this as FTTH even though the fiber connection does not leave the complex? They are adamant that this is a FTTH service, even though it gets a bit wonky in heavy weather.
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I dunno which is more of a blatant lie. When bastards do this, or when they get a fibre link at the kerb and then distribute the network over cat 5 or wireless within the complex - and promote it as FTTH.

Morons like this give the entire industry a bad name.
 
stfenix said:
If you live in Hennops then probably :D Sad thing is. there is fibre right around our complex. just us that are "not" covered.
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Ah not same complex then... Btw this last few days have been a nightmare. Every time the rain goes above a drizzle our internet dies...
 
Go to the Body Corp or HOA and get them out of there. Sounds like Level 7 has promised the complex a Ferrari but instead delivered a donkey.
 
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