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LF1M Tank last spot

Everytime you want to go on a raid/heroic or whatever its the biggest problem to get a tank :(

Is tanks boring to play or maybe hard to play?

This is on Dentarg EU server. Anyone else notice the same on other servers?

Very frustrating.
 
On Lagbringer we have that problem with healers most of the time. Every so often there will be a tank shortage but healers are very scarce.
 
Vampir0 said:
LF1M Tank last spot

Everytime you want to go on a raid/heroic or whatever its the biggest problem to get a tank :(

Is tanks boring to play or maybe hard to play?

This is on Dentarg EU server. Anyone else notice the same on other servers?

Very frustrating.
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Tanking is the core of all dungeons it most stressfull job you have to mark you plan what dies first second and last wich get cced wich not basicly you have to lead and if things go South like
i does alot in pug cause some
dont listen.Who gets the blame i get the blame the tank or even sometimes the healer rarly the dps most of the time its a dps retartd dpsing out of dps order then poor healer tries to save him but has to over heal and get agro in the process=dead=dead tank.=dead all.
Standing back nuking is way more relaxed then tanking even healing is easier than tanking.

But i love tanking only people dont treet tanks rigth sometimes.
 
Crowley said:
On Lagbringer we have that problem with healers most of the time. Every so often there will be a tank shortage but healers are very scarce.
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Do you pug or not?

How are the horde pugs on Lagbringer tbh
 
Lvling my second tanking class waroir now hes lvl37 i get inv for sm armoury from priest he asks me can you tank i loled i am not prot but i think i can still tank anything till lvl 50+ gottanking gear.
Then he didnt sound happy so i asked whats your spec he said shadow go figure i new before he said it and i asked him can you heal shadow is not healer spec.

Some people are just palin stupid no way ill spec prot now i am still doing quests solo and as prot it will take too damn long to ding 70.

He got pissed off.So i left he never found a tank.
 
Yes I do. I prefer going with a guild group but sometimes they're just not available. The pugs are ok most of the time although there is one guild I refuse to pug with called DEATHLORDS or as we call them deadlolz. The first time I pugged with them the tank and their dps didn't know what ktm/omen is. Since then I've done two more pugs with them then called it a day. Once or twice a dps from their guild joined but it always ended up going pear shaped.

I am at the point where I tell the rest of the group that either the deadlolz pug leaves or I leave.
 
Standing back nuking is way more relaxed then tanking even healing is easier than tanking.
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Nah, they equally stressful. While tanking 'tank 'n spank' bosses, I actually get bored. Healers (at least good one) always needs to be a step ahead of time.

DPS generally has an easier job, especially in 5-man's, but when it comes to raids even DPS classes need to do their bid or the entire raid suffers. And I'm not talking just DPSing; take Mags as a good example (pre-2.4). Clickers (usually DPS classes) need to get to the cubes in time while getting quaked to the other side of the room and coordinate to click at the same time. If one misses, its a whipe.

Tanking & healing can be unrewarding and that is why there are many "LF1M Tank" / "Healer" spammed in General/LFG. Good tanks get guilded and raid, because they can't do anything else really and bad tanks respec. Me, I prefer doing guild runs than pugs due to the fact that my repair bills can be astronomical when pugs go bad.
 
Petruz said:
Lvling my second tanking class waroir now hes lvl37 i get inv for sm armoury from priest he asks me can you tank i loled i am not prot but i think i can still tank anything till lvl 50+ gottanking gear.
Then he didnt sound happy so i asked whats your spec he said shadow go figure i new before he said it and i asked him can you heal shadow is not healer spec.

Some people are just palin stupid no way ill spec prot now i am still doing quests solo and as prot it will take too damn long to ding 70.

He got pissed off.So i left he never found a tank.
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Yup, ignorance is bliss.

I've healed every non-heroic instance as protection without any real problems. (My main is paladin)

Not too long ago, while playing my shammy, I was asked to join a pug as healer and was rejected. I then told him: "good luck in finding a healer specced class at 65". 2mins later I get whispered back: "get your healing gear". We didn't wipe once and I healed fine as enhanced.
 
LaRoosTa said:
Yup, ignorance is bliss.

I've healed every non-heroic instance as protection without any real problems. (My main is paladin)

Not too long ago, while playing my shammy, I was asked to join a pug as healer and was rejected. I then told him: "good luck in finding a healer specced class at 65". 2mins later I get whispered back: "get your healing gear". We didn't wipe once and I healed fine as enhanced.
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I healed sl at lvl 65 no wipes as ballance specced druid.
It ussualy people from big guild thats like that if your not 100% specced for it even on normals you cant do it.

One thing i love about my druid can tank and dps in feral.

But i do think the same could be possible with waroir gone try hybrid speccing a waroir.
 
Crowley said:
Yes I do. I prefer going with a guild group but sometimes they're just not available. The pugs are ok most of the time although there is one guild I refuse to pug with called DEATHLORDS or as we call them deadlolz. The first time I pugged with them the tank and their dps didn't know what ktm/omen is. Since then I've done two more pugs with them then called it a day. Once or twice a dps from their guild joined but it always ended up going pear shaped.

I am at the point where I tell the rest of the group that either the deadlolz pug leaves or I leave.
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/bow

I have no idea how you can manage...Guess horde wins on the pugs then, alliance pugs are truely the worst thing. I personally can't manage.
 
I'm playing with my mage most of the time and its not easy to get a full group. Mostly getting a tank thats the problem.

I do understand that tanking isn't easy, but I sure which I had one :D

How good are Paladin's at tanking? I've seen in heroics, but what about raids?
 
Since the latest Patch, it's bloody hard to find a lock also.

They are so much needed now with them being able to summon into an instance. Just HS, repair and be summoned back in 2 minutes or less :)

I love Locks now :p
 
Hey guys im lvl 64 Orc Warrior and im full arms spec, so im not really good for tanking.

Do you think i should respec to Protection? (itll cost me 10g lol)

This is my first (and only) character.

i do instances, sometimes im tank but when somethin goes wrong its my fault. i hate that :P maybe if i respec itll be easier?
 
Erk, I have no trouble finding locks, unfortunately every single one I encounter is an absolute nubcake.
Locks are frikkin eezimode and yet they seem to have trouble picking the right Target, CC'ing and actually DPSing above the Tank.
It's been rather sad recently.
 
Respeccing prot will help with tanking, as every1 will agree, and it has been said on these forums multiple times, don't spec prot before 70
 
tooone7 said:
Hey guys im lvl 64 Orc Warrior and im full arms spec, so im not really good for tanking.

Do you think i should respec to Protection? (itll cost me 10g lol)

This is my first (and only) character.

i do instances, sometimes im tank but when somethin goes wrong its my fault. i hate that :P maybe if i respec itll be easier?
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This is just my 2c and worth nothing what so ever.

Yesterday I was in Rampants with a mate Pala (Protection Spec) I'm full Protection spec also. He insisted on tanking. I was DPS, duel Wield in Full protection spec. I have an /equipt shield macro. Now He's tanking was fine and I was stance dancing to try and maximise my rage generation.

I noticed a few things.

1. In Defence stance I generate a hell of alot more rage than in any other stance on every hit I deal I generate more rage than any other stance.

2. The moment i changed stance to defensive I would pull aggro like nothing on earth could.

Now after that I went lvl'ng again (Questing) I could do alot more damage in Duel wield due to the Rage generation and kill mobs alot quicker. I hit harder with my 1h in Defensive stance than I do with 2x 1h together at the same rate.

Meaning my Shield + 1h Does more damage than I would using 2x 1h. :eek:

So now that left me to believe that Devensive stance and Full protection spec is not that bad for lvl'ng. I know this would be because I'm not spec'd for Duel wield ;) But Protection spec is very good for generating rage. I lvl'd till lvl 58 in Fury spec and never got as much rage in such a short time as I do now.

So I will going forward DPS in an instance using a shield + 1h and I will tank the same way, I can defend myself if I pull aggro on one mob and 2 tanks is always beter than one :D

Like I said, my 2c only :o :p
 
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Pitbull, read Ciderhelm's tankspot.com if you dont already.

I stuggle to stay with my prot Paly mate on aggro with a sheild, but Dw and I can easly pull the stickest mobs off him. You can also generate pretty good DPS spaming dev while DW prot.

Although with a good block set sheild slam revenge combos rule for me (but you have to have the rage to play). I tank all 5 man and some Heroic DW (or switching between both) because of the aggro and rage you can generate. You obviously need a healer with his A game in heroics.

Issue is though you cant do that while lving and its also very gear dependent as my rage gen and aggro have scaled alot with better gear while being 70.
 
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Blatman said:
Pitbull you are 100% right, read Ciderhelm's tankspot.com if you dont already.

I stuggle to stay with my prot Paly mate on aggro with a sheild, but Dw and I can easly pull the stickest mobs off him. You can also generate pretty good DPS spaming dev while DW prot.

Although with a good block set sheild slam revenge combos rule for me (but you have to have the rage to play). I tank all 5 man and some Heroic DW (or switching between both) because of the aggro and rage you can generate. You obviously need a healer with his A game in heroics.

Issue is though you cant do that while lving and its also very gear dependent as my rage gen and aggro have scaled alot with better gear while being 70.
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Going to read up now, thanx for the site :)
 
I find a lot more bears than warriors on the rare occasion i pug. Even in guild, there are more bears than prot warriors. And even fewer prot paladins.

The problem is there's this huge demand for them, yet speccing for it is entirely too limiting. This is why bears are more popular than protection warriors these days - at least they can still switchto dps with a gearchange and a shapeshift - no respec required.
Whereas Prot tanks and Prot Palas need to respec if they want to be able to fulfill ANY other role, be it pve dps or efficient solo grinding or pvp. Even feral druids are better at pvp than either of these poor souls.

I half suspect that as a result, Deathknights will be the same as feral - able to switch between tanking and dps with a gear change and a shapeshift (in their case, just a runechange out of combat). That's just applying a bandaid to a bigger poblem - the fact remains, prot warrior and paladins need to be made more viable for other roles besides being a tank. Some kind of relatively long burst damage cooldowns (like 1 or 2 mins 'Shamanistic Range' sorta ability that massively burst their damage for 15 secs, for eg - this would help them for grinding and pvp without making them viable for pve sustained dps) would help with their soloing, and for pvp they should be able to, for eg, redirect spells to them ala a shammies Grounding totem.
 
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