LHC Press release

zippy said:
It's perfectly valid for expenditure of this magnitude to be questioned. Resources are not unlimited and taxpayers deserve an explanation about how their taxes are spent. While I agree that funding for good science is needed, even in tough economic times, it can't ignore economic and political reality.

The people at CERN have a done a good job of convincing govt's to continue funding the project. They also need to be aware that this doesnt give them a licence to piss away money.
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Fully agree. I would also like to know what came out of this or if it's too soon yet to tell.
 
Pietleeu said:
These projects are such a waste of time and money.....We would learn a lot more about the Human Race, by using that money to feed and educate the ones in need.
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Ive read some poor statements on this forum but this has to rank as one of the worst. I mean why bother with any of "these projects" right? We would be better off without cars,modern medicine,agriculture, computers and the internet all byproducts of "these projects"

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Pietleeu said:
These projects are such a waste of time and money.....We would learn a lot more about the Human Race, by using that money to feed and educate the ones in need.
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Without "these projects" you would not have the ability to post something this stupid
 
Pietleeu has a point. It's debatable the benefits that fringe science projects have over the same money spent elsewhere on direct research to help humanity. Spin offs sounds nice but nobody knows if something wouldn't have been invented anyway. The internet is a prime example of something that arose as a result of the necessity to share information. Various institutions developed parts of it.
 
Swa said:
Pietleeu has a point. It's debatable the benefits that fringe science projects have over the same money spent elsewhere on direct research to help humanity. Spin offs sounds nice but nobody knows if something wouldn't have been invented anyway. The internet is a prime example of something that arose as a result of the necessity to share information. Various institutions developed parts of it.
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Are you saying that LHC is fringe science ?
 
Swa said:
Pietleeu has a point. It's debatable the benefits that fringe science projects have over the same money spent elsewhere on direct research to help humanity. Spin offs sounds nice but nobody knows if something wouldn't have been invented anyway. The internet is a prime example of something that arose as a result of the necessity to share information. Various institutions developed parts of it.
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Maybe in Swa's land of crazy its debatable but not in the real world.
 
zippy said:
That's not an answer. If you can't provide an answer, then don't. Posting a link to a definition doesnt answer the question "Are you saying that LHC is fringe science?"
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It's fringe science by definition.
 
Pietleeu said:
Cars helped, the internet helped, modern medicine(of which going to the dentist these days is my fav) helped, agriculture helped, computers and the internet helped, renewable energy researched helps, understanding the weather patterns help......

How does better understanding the laws of nature and physics, better my life....
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You do know the internet was developed at CERN, right? The laws of nature and physics? You mean like gravity and electromagnetism? Yeah, how'd understanding those fundamental forces of nature ever help humanity? :erm:

Maybe if we had a time machine we could go back in time and ask Carl Friedrich Gauss how the things he was working on in the 1800's would have helped humanity? He had no idea, but without his work, you wouldn't have had a computer to be working on.

You're taking an incredibly short-sighted view, friend.

Pietleeu said:
Please tell me, so I can try and one day reach a level of intelligence quotient, even remotely close to some of you, and feel good about myself and my Job I got because of that said aspect, and the Steak I am eating, while watching a documentary on the LHC....while our neighbours are starving!!!
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Why don't you ask BMW how they can sponsor the Springboks with R40mil while people are starving? Or how a baseball player can get a $275 million (over 10 years) contract while people are suffering?
 
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