Lightning, DSL, aftermath..

NomNom said:
So for the first time that I can remember the lightning has gone through my phone line. This happened last night in what must have been the biggest storm Durban has had in awhile. Luckily I had purchased a surge protector from Wootware about 2 weeks ago, one of these: http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=P5BT-SA&tab=features
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If a surge current was incoming to the protector, then a same current was also outgoing into the game. It is called electricity. To have current means a same current must be simultaneously on the other side.

To increase profits, many protectors are grossly undersized. Then a surge too tiny to damage electronics only causes protector damage. Then the more naive assume, "My protector sacrificed itself to save my game." Nonsense. The same current was outgoing to the game. But protection inside the game was superior.

View spec numbers for that protector. 1020 joules means it only absorbs 340 joules and never more than 680 joules during a surge. How large is a typically destructive surge? Hundreds of thousands of joules. No problem. They know most will ignore the numbers. A majority will make conclusions from wild speculation manipulated by advertising.

A properly sized and effective protector remains functional after every surge. Even after a direct lightning strike. Effective protection means you did not even know a surge existed.

Do you want protection from something that occurs typically once every seven years? Well proven solutions connect those hundreds of thousands of joules to earth. Then that surge is not inside hunting destructively for grossly undersized protectors. Or if stronger, then hunting destructively for a game. Only a grossly undersized protector would fail during a surge too tiny to harm the adjacent game.

What happened to yours? It disconnected its protector circuits as fast as possible. Left the game connected to AC mains. If it did not disconnect fast enough, then a house fire may have resulted. Grossly undersized.
 
westom said:
If a surge current was incoming to the protector, then a same current was also outgoing into the game. It is called electricity. To have current means a same current must be simultaneously on the other side.

To increase profits, many protectors are grossly undersized. Then a surge too tiny to damage electronics only causes protector damage. Then the more naive assume, "My protector sacrificed itself to save my game." Nonsense. The same current was outgoing to the game. But protection inside the game was superior.

View spec numbers for that protector. 1020 joules means it only absorbs 340 joules and never more than 680 joules during a surge. How large is a typically destructive surge? Hundreds of thousands of joules. No problem. They know most will ignore the numbers. A majority will make conclusions from wild speculation manipulated by advertising.

A properly sized and effective protector remains functional after every surge. Even after a direct lightning strike. Effective protection means you did not even know a surge existed.

Do you want protection from something that occurs typically once every seven years? Well proven solutions connect those hundreds of thousands of joules to earth. Then that surge is not inside hunting destructively for grossly undersized protectors. Or if stronger, then hunting destructively for a game. Only a grossly undersized protector would fail during a surge too tiny to harm the adjacent game.

What happened to yours? It disconnected its protector circuits as fast as possible. Left the game connected to AC mains. If it did not disconnect fast enough, then a house fire may have resulted. Grossly undersized.
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dude. wtf. dude. :/
 
westom said:
To increase profits, many protectors are grossly undersized. Then a surge too tiny to damage electronics only causes protector damage. Then the more naive assume, "My protector sacrificed itself to save my game." Nonsense. The same current was outgoing to the game. But protection inside the game was superior.
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LOL, I find it hard to finish reading your post and taking what you say seriously when you constantly refer to current going to a "game".

EDIT: Someone has been playing a little too much system shock me thinks... That or drugs.
 
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westom said:
If a surge current was incoming to the protector, then a same current was also outgoing into the game. It is called electricity. To have current means a same current must be simultaneously on the other side.

To increase profits, many protectors are grossly undersized. Then a surge too tiny to damage electronics only causes protector damage. Then the more naive assume, "My protector sacrificed itself to save my game." Nonsense. The same current was outgoing to the game. But protection inside the game was superior.

View spec numbers for that protector. 1020 joules means it only absorbs 340 joules and never more than 680 joules during a surge. How large is a typically destructive surge? Hundreds of thousands of joules. No problem. They know most will ignore the numbers. A majority will make conclusions from wild speculation manipulated by advertising.

A properly sized and effective protector remains functional after every surge. Even after a direct lightning strike. Effective protection means you did not even know a surge existed.

Do you want protection from something that occurs typically once every seven years? Well proven solutions connect those hundreds of thousands of joules to earth. Then that surge is not inside hunting destructively for grossly undersized protectors. Or if stronger, then hunting destructively for a game. Only a grossly undersized protector would fail during a surge too tiny to harm the adjacent game.

What happened to yours? It disconnected its protector circuits as fast as possible. Left the game connected to AC mains. If it did not disconnect fast enough, then a house fire may have resulted. Grossly undersized.
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WHAT?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
 
Archer said:
I'm also trying to figure out what the game is
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What piece of hardware is playing Battlefield 3? A computer? An Xbox? That is the game.

A grossly undersized protector failed on a tiny surge. So tiny as to pass through the DSL modem and 'game' without damage. Better protection is already inside every computer, TV, Xbox, or other game hardware. The protector was grossly undersized.

Why does the APC still provide power? Its protector circuits disconnected as fast as possible. It left a surge connected to the DSL modem, router, and game.

It was a distant lightning strike. It was a tiny surge. The protector was so grossly undersized as to fail.
 
From what i've seen lightning is around 40KA to 120KA so its going to fry whatever fancy multiplug you have.

A surge arrester must specify the voltage at which it activates, usually 330V, the current it can handle and the response time to a surge.

If it doesn't that's probably because its useless.

Fuses are also of no use for lightning or surges as they burn to slow.

Class 2 as mentioned before, installed in the DB is the way to go.

To give you an idea of something basic, a 60KA, 8/20us, 400V unit for a DB is about R250. 1 per phase.
 
DanH said:
From what i've seen lightning is around 40KA to 120KA so its going to fry whatever fancy multiplug you have.

A surge arrester must specify the voltage at which it activates, usually 330V, the current it can handle and the response time to a surge.

If it doesn't that's probably because its useless.

Fuses are also of no use for lightning or surges as they burn to slow.

Class 2 as mentioned before, installed in the DB is the way to go.

To give you an idea of something basic, a 60KA, 8/20us, 400V unit for a DB is about R250. 1 per phase.
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Unfortunately I can not just install equipment in the DB, I live in a flat/complex.
 
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