Linux Mint 12 RC released

ghoti said:
What advantages do I get for running Mint over Ubuntu? Ubuntu has more support so thats its advantage, what advantage do I have with Mint?
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With the Mint 12 release, nothing, Mint now has nothing to offer over Ubuntu and the shift and market lead will slowly once again move over to Ubuntu.

They support Gnome 3, MGSE and mate. Ubuntu supports Unity (blegh), Classic Gnome and I don't know what else. Gnome 3 and Unity are birds of a kind, so nothing new there.
I wish I could have been at the dev meeting where they discussed Gnome 3 to slap some sense into the devs. They disregarded so many scenarios and stations that it isn't even funny. If they only allowed the user to change everything (like KDE4 did right from the get go, with the exception of the panel colour) then the transition would have been much smoother.
Hide the top panel? I do not want to hide it, I don't want it there, I want it gone, finish and klaar! Change the kicker to an alternative one, change the colour of panels, the opacity, even the orientation. I'm not sure if there are shell scripts that does this yet, but what were they thinking ramming their ideals down the users throat?

"This is how the ideal desktop should be!" NO, the ideal desktop is the one I created and like to use, the one that is functional to me.
Maybe next year this time I'll be happy with Gnome3, but I doubt it.

Enough of that...

All Gnome based distros have now gone down the drain. I will either move over to LXDE or OpenBox on the Netbook again. Sigh, and they do not play well with the Netbook... KDE again is too resource intensive...
 
MyWorld said:
With the Mint 12 release, nothing, Mint now has nothing to offer over Ubuntu and the shift and market lead will slowly once again move over to Ubuntu.
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Why such a sour puss? :-)

When I tested Fedora 15 with Gnome 3 I rather liked the new Gnome...but HATED Unity. I Went back to Mint from Fedora though as I could not stand its package manager and some things I just could not get to work properly...I think Flash was one of them.
 
I have said enough on the Gnome 3 issue, I'm not going down that road again, so lets see why Mint now have nothing over Ubuntu.

They still use Ubuntu as base, even though they promised to move over solely to Debian. They still support Debian, but their main focus is still Ubuntu. The Mint 12 Ubuntu version will be released months before the KDE or Debian version.
Why use Mint then in the first place, going second hand off of Ubuntu? Would it not make more sense to then just stick to Ubuntu?

Their main argument on switching to Gnome 3?
"We are not going to be compatible with Ubuntu is we stick to Gnome 2."
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It’s important to understand that they represent our future though, and that sticking to Gnome 2 would make the situation in terms of packages and runtime conflicts with both Gnome 3 and Ubuntu completely unmanageable. In other words, if we were to stick to Gnome 2.32, Linux Mint would no longer be compatible with Ubuntu and you would not be able to run Gnome 3 in Linux Mint.
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Well I never, the reason I joined Mint was to GET RID OF UBUNTU and Gnome 3, oh the irony! This would not have been a problem if they stuck to their guns and switched over to a Debian base.

And this is not just me, read the Mint forums, there are many disgruntled users out there in the same boat as me.

Anyway, I admit that I have sour grapes regarding this whole Gnome 3/Unity saga, so this is just a "grumpy old man" blowing off steam.
 
MyWorld said:
Anyway, I admit that I have sour grapes regarding this whole Gnome 3/Unity saga, so this is just a "grumpy old man" blowing off steam.
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hehe...ok...no probs. If you dont like Mint then its cool. Sure there is a distro that will blow your socks off. :-)

Me on the other hand am still shaking with anticipation for me getting some Mint 12 LOVEZ!
 
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It seems like a false alarm, conflicting reports on various fronts. Seems like they are close to the final release though.

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This is confusing, none the less.

It seems that Mint 12 HAS been released, just not announced yet.
http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/linuxmint.com/stable/12/

I'll wait until the official announcement on the website or blog before downloading though.
 
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MyWorld said:
I have said enough on the Gnome 3 issue, I'm not going down that road again, so lets see why Mint now have nothing over Ubuntu.

They still use Ubuntu as base, even though they promised to move over solely to Debian. They still support Debian, but their main focus is still Ubuntu. The Mint 12 Ubuntu version will be released months before the KDE or Debian version.
Why use Mint then in the first place, going second hand off of Ubuntu? Would it not make more sense to then just stick to Ubuntu?

Their main argument on switching to Gnome 3?
"We are not going to be compatible with Ubuntu is we stick to Gnome 2."
Direct quote:


Well I never, the reason I joined Mint was to GET RID OF UBUNTU and Gnome 3, oh the irony! This would not have been a problem if they stuck to their guns and switched over to a Debian base.

And this is not just me, read the Mint forums, there are many disgruntled users out there in the same boat as me.

Anyway, I admit that I have sour grapes regarding this whole Gnome 3/Unity saga, so this is just a "grumpy old man" blowing off steam.
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"GNOME3 is currently trickling it's way down to Debian Testing." So maybe Mint will leave the unstable Ubuntu sometime. Lol
 
Errrmmmm, it is the same image I posted yesterday or so.

It is not official, the image is released but not yet announced. Wait for the announcement rather, things might still change between this and the final announcement.
 
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