Local IS after cap reached?

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Okay, so first off I have an IS account and have exceeded my cap. I was under the impression that I would have full local speeds, but this is hardly the case. I am starting to think that once you have reached your cap, there is some wierd shaping being applied because I battle to even connect to my companies servers and they have a fat pipe to IS. Even the speeds from the IS newsserver are pathetic (I know there have been some issues lately). But i mean look at these traceroutes below (hop 10) and this site loads relatively quick compared to others.

Tracing route to www.myadsl.co.za [196.7.147.165]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms chobe [192.168.1.254]
2 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms c1-1-1.rrba.isadsl.co.za [196.209.48.1]
3 257 ms 287 ms 243 ms cdsl1-rba-at6-0-11-is.isdsl.net [196.38.72.249]
4 * 279 ms 283 ms curp1-rba-gi6.isdsl.net [196.38.72.238]
5 63 ms 19 ms 22 ms cdsl1-rba-gi0-1-43.isdsl.net [196.38.72.229]
6 79 ms 325 ms 75 ms 196.26.96.203
7 37 ms 112 ms 77 ms cp1-jinx-gi0-1.rtr.isnet.net [196.26.0.253]
8 19 ms 19 ms 56 ms fe5-0.br1.jnb7.alter.net [196.30.228.241]
9 21 ms 22 ms 56 ms fe0-0.cr1.jnb7.alter.net [196.30.228.122]
10 795 ms 1257 ms 1679 ms srp1-0-0.gw2.cpt1.alter.net [196.31.249.67]
11 51 ms 126 ms 74 ms vlan10.hr1.cpt1.alter.net [196.30.176.36]
12 78 ms 74 ms 59 ms cpt.h-gw.net [196.7.5.134]
13 106 ms 86 ms 56 ms dedi65a.your-server.co.za [196.7.147.165]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>tracert www.myadsl.co.za

Tracing route to www.myadsl.co.za [196.7.147.165]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms chobe [192.168.1.254]
2 18 ms 17 ms 16 ms c1-1-1.rrba.isadsl.co.za [196.209.48.1]
3 * * 269 ms cdsl1-rba-at6-0-11-is.isdsl.net [196.38.72.249]
4 236 ms 334 ms 230 ms curp1-rba-gi6.isdsl.net [196.38.72.238]
5 25 ms 25 ms 20 ms cdsl1-rba-gi0-1-43.isdsl.net [196.38.72.229]
6 291 ms 476 ms 285 ms 196.26.96.203
7 180 ms 447 ms 437 ms cp1-jinx-gi0-1.rtr.isnet.net [196.26.0.253]
8 162 ms 41 ms 23 ms fe5-0.br1.jnb7.alter.net [196.30.228.241]
9 21 ms 21 ms 28 ms fe0-0.cr1.jnb7.alter.net [196.30.228.122]
10 117 ms 58 ms 54 ms srp1-0-0.gw2.cpt1.alter.net [196.31.249.67]
11 146 ms 52 ms 51 ms vlan10.hr1.cpt1.alter.net [196.30.176.36]
12 63 ms 100 ms 50 ms cpt.h-gw.net [196.7.5.134]
13 53 ms 55 ms 84 ms dedi65a.your-server.co.za [196.7.147.165]

Trace complete.

OKay and to give you an idead how slow international is check out this traceroute

C:\Documents and Settings\Paul>tracert www.digg.com

Tracing route to digg.com [64.191.203.30]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms chobe [192.168.1.254]
2 34 ms 18 ms 17 ms c1-1-1.rrba.isadsl.co.za [196.209.48.1]
3 * 371 ms * cdsl1-rba-at6-0-11-is.isdsl.net [196.38.72.249]
4 319 ms 534 ms 312 ms curp1-rba-gi6.isdsl.net [196.38.72.238]
5 595 ms 291 ms 271 ms cdsl1-rba-gi0-1-43.isdsl.net [196.38.72.229]
6 * 330 ms 595 ms 196.26.96.198
7 842 ms 782 ms 823 ms 168.210.250.81
8 890 ms 830 ms 807 ms 168.210.250.80
9 828 ms 896 ms 854 ms 168.209.244.7
10 1107 ms 1079 ms 1462 ms rd1hu-fe10-0.ny.shawcable.net [198.32.160.86]
11 930 ms 1056 ms 1051 ms rc1sh-pos14-2.mt.shawcable.net [66.163.76.89]
12 1544 ms * 1163 ms rc2sh-pos15-0.mt.shawcable.net [66.163.66.14]
13 1101 ms 1211 ms 1237 ms rc1ch-pos7-0.il.shawcable.net [66.163.77.14]
14 1073 ms 1311 ms 1546 ms rc2sj-pos0-0.cl.shawcable.net [66.163.77.74]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 1066 ms 1243 ms 1045 ms www.digg.com [64.191.203.30]

Trace complete.

This is not broadband...this is not even comparable to a 9600 modem. I suspect that I dont have full local speeds and thats what I'm really moaning about. What to do...what to do...
 
I suspect your having internet problems, Ive been using IS while capped for 2 months allready, one month before it was even implimented yet, and I definitely dont get slower local speeds than before the cap. No I dont have a special IS account, its the same as any other user, and I also need to pay the same price :P

IS may be having regional peering problems to UUNET? myadsl.co.za is running on UUNET or what was the traceroutes about?

Are you 100% sure you are the only one connected currently to your account, and if there isnt any other systems on your network downloading perhaps?

Your international after cap is correct, in fact you shouldnt even have access according to the package offered.

Should ask your ISP to give you comments on regional IS problems perhaps, Im not aware of any but perhaps your ISP may know.
 
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Well I signed up with Openweb. The point I'm trying to make with the traceroute is to show the high latency and lack of consistency. I use Dominic's ADSL stats analyser so I know that I am the only one connected to my account. I also use DU Meter so have a pretty good idea what kind of speeds I'm getting. Am I the only one with these issues? Here is some more detail

Below is the log of my OpenVPN client trying to connect to a local server (I commented out IP's)


Capped Account - CANT CONNECT
Sun Dec 11 22:01:21 2005 us=833223 NOTE: --mute triggered...
Sun Dec 11 22:01:21 2005 us=833265 183 variation(s) on previous 5 message(s) suppressed by --mute
Sun Dec 11 22:01:21 2005 us=835891 OpenVPN 2.0.4 Win32-MinGW [SSL] [LZO] built on Nov 1 2005
Sun Dec 11 22:01:24 2005 us=567529 LZO compression initialized
Sun Dec 11 22:01:24 2005 us=567706 Control Channel MTU parms [ L:1544 D:140 EF:40 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]
Sun Dec 11 22:01:24 2005 us=672753 Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1544 D:1450 EF:44 EB:135 ET:0 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]
Sun Dec 11 22:01:24 2005 us=672817 Local Options String: 'V4,dev-type tun,link-mtu 1544,tun-mtu 1500,proto TCPv4_CLIENT,comp-lzo,cipher BF-CBC,auth SHA1,keysize 128,key-method 2,tls-client'
Sun Dec 11 22:01:24 2005 us=673848 Expected Remote Options String: 'V4,dev-type tun,link-mtu 1544,tun-mtu 1500,proto TCPv4_SERVER,comp-lzo,cipher BF-CBC,auth SHA1,keysize 128,key-method 2,tls-server'
Sun Dec 11 22:01:24 2005 us=700997 Local Options hash (VER=V4): '69109d17'
Sun Dec 11 22:01:24 2005 us=701048 Expected Remote Options hash (VER=V4): 'c0103fa8'
Sun Dec 11 22:01:24 2005 us=701099 Attempting to establish TCP connection with 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:01:28 2005 us=57185 TCP connection established with 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:01:28 2005 us=57241 Socket Buffers: R=[8192->8192] S=[8192->8192]
Sun Dec 11 22:01:28 2005 us=58951 TCPv4_CLIENT link local: [undef]
Sun Dec 11 22:01:28 2005 us=58985 TCPv4_CLIENT link remote: 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:01:33 2005 us=405716 TLS: Initial packet from 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx, sid=d95ca7b9 65b82287
Sun Dec 11 22:02:27 2005 us=337235 TLS Error: TLS key negotiation failed to occur within 60 seconds (check your network connectivity)
Sun Dec 11 22:02:27 2005 us=337262 TLS Error: TLS handshake failed
Sun Dec 11 22:02:27 2005 us=337570 Fatal TLS error (check_tls_errors_co), restarting
Sun Dec 11 22:02:27 2005 us=337832 TCP/UDP: Closing socket
Sun Dec 11 22:02:27 2005 us=338030 SIGUSR1[soft,tls-error] received, process restarting
Sun Dec 11 22:02:27 2005 us=338046 Restart pause, 5 second(s)
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=340022 LZO compression initialized
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=340147 Control Channel MTU parms [ L:1544 D:140 EF:40 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=341261 Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1544 D:1450 EF:44 EB:135 ET:0 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=341312 Local Options String: 'V4,dev-type tun,link-mtu 1544,tun-mtu 1500,proto TCPv4_CLIENT,comp-lzo,cipher BF-CBC,auth SHA1,keysize 128,key-method 2,tls-client'
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=341328 Expected Remote Options String: 'V4,dev-type tun,link-mtu 1544,tun-mtu 1500,proto TCPv4_SERVER,comp-lzo,cipher BF-CBC,auth SHA1,keysize 128,key-method 2,tls-server'
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=341356 Local Options hash (VER=V4): '69109d17'
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=341379 Expected Remote Options hash (VER=V4): 'c0103fa8'
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=341429 Attempting to establish TCP connection with 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=778894 TCP connection established with 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=778936 Socket Buffers: R=[8192->8192] S=[8192->8192]
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=779925 TCPv4_CLIENT link local: [undef]
Sun Dec 11 22:02:32 2005 us=779953 TCPv4_CLIENT link remote: 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:02:36 2005 us=290409 TLS: Initial packet from 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx, sid=13599bfe 861c4005
Sun Dec 11 22:03:32 2005 us=570969 TLS Error: TLS key negotiation failed to occur within 60 seconds (check your network connectivity)
Sun Dec 11 22:03:32 2005 us=571006 TLS Error: TLS handshake failed
Sun Dec 11 22:03:32 2005 us=575323 Fatal TLS error (check_tls_errors_co), restarting
Sun Dec 11 22:03:32 2005 us=575614 TCP/UDP: Closing socket
Sun Dec 11 22:03:32 2005 us=578979 SIGUSR1[soft,tls-error] received, process restarting

Uncapped Account - Connect NO PROBLEM

Sun Dec 11 22:10:27 2005 us=330008 NOTE: --mute triggered...
Sun Dec 11 22:10:27 2005 us=330039 183 variation(s) on previous 5 message(s) suppressed by --mute
Sun Dec 11 22:10:27 2005 us=330056 OpenVPN 2.0.4 Win32-MinGW [SSL] [LZO] built on Nov 1 2005
Sun Dec 11 22:10:29 2005 us=973987 LZO compression initialized
Sun Dec 11 22:10:29 2005 us=974163 Control Channel MTU parms [ L:1544 D:140 EF:40 EB:0 ET:0 EL:0 ]
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=10600 Data Channel MTU parms [ L:1544 D:1450 EF:44 EB:135 ET:0 EL:0 AF:3/1 ]
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=10675 Local Options String: 'V4,dev-type tun,link-mtu 1544,tun-mtu 1500,proto TCPv4_CLIENT,comp-lzo,cipher BF-CBC,auth SHA1,keysize 128,key-method 2,tls-client'
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=10691 Expected Remote Options String: 'V4,dev-type tun,link-mtu 1544,tun-mtu 1500,proto TCPv4_SERVER,comp-lzo,cipher BF-CBC,auth SHA1,keysize 128,key-method 2,tls-server'
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=10727 Local Options hash (VER=V4): '69109d17'
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=10749 Expected Remote Options hash (VER=V4): 'c0103fa8'
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=10783 Attempting to establish TCP connection with 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=56460 TCP connection established with 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=57936 Socket Buffers: R=[8192->8192] S=[8192->8192]
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=58886 TCPv4_CLIENT link local: [undef]
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=58920 TCPv4_CLIENT link remote: 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:10:30 2005 us=86551 TLS: Initial packet from 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx, sid=673c0fcd 06eccbef
Sun Dec 11 22:10:33 2005 us=574693 Data Channel Encrypt: Cipher 'BF-CBC' initialized with 128 bit key
Sun Dec 11 22:10:33 2005 us=574731 NOTE: --mute triggered...
Sun Dec 11 22:10:33 2005 us=578417 4 variation(s) on previous 5 message(s) suppressed by --mute
Sun Dec 11 22:10:33 2005 us=578446 [server] Peer Connection Initiated with 196.26.xxx.xxx:xxxx
Sun Dec 11 22:10:34 2005 us=820269 SENT CONTROL [server]: 'PUSH_REQUEST' (status=1)
<SNIP>
Sun Dec 11 22:10:48 2005 us=79902 Initialization Sequence Completed


Traceroute using a Capped Account to a local server

Tracing route to x.x.co.za [196.26.xxx.xxx]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms chobe [192.168.1.254]
2 16 ms 16 ms 18 ms c1-1-1.rrba.isadsl.co.za [196.209.48.1]
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 276 ms 243 ms 283 ms curp1-rba-gi6.isdsl.net [196.38.72.238]
5 206 ms 239 ms 263 ms cdsl1-rba-gi0-1-43.isdsl.net [196.38.72.229]
6 603 ms 569 ms 302 ms 196.26.96.203
7 206 ms 317 ms 328 ms ch10-rba-gi0-1.rtr.isnet.net [196.26.0.50]
<SNIP>

Traceroute using a UnCapped Account to a local server

Tracing route to x.x.co.za [196.26.xxx.xx]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms chobe [192.168.1.254]
2 60 ms 18 ms 17 ms c1-1-1.rrba.isadsl.co.za [196.209.48.1]
3 130 ms 42 ms 22 ms cdsl1-rba-at6-0-11-is.isdsl.net [196.38.72.249]
4 21 ms 50 ms 20 ms curp1-rba-gi6.isdsl.net [196.38.72.238]
5 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms cdsl1-rba-gi0-1-43.isdsl.net [196.38.72.229]
6 24 ms 100 ms 134 ms 196.26.96.203
7 26 ms 32 ms 25 ms ch10-rba-gi0-1.rtr.isnet.net [196.26.0.50]
<SNIP>

Um can you see see the difference...I certainly can!!
 
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Yes I can see the difference, all I dont understand, I dont get the same performance on my capped account.

Obviously you have a problem, I just dont know where to pinpoint because its not at all my results.

Any other capped IS adsl users care to comment? What do you get on your capped account locally?
 
Where you located Slip ?
We're in BedfordView and our 1024 line cannot even get a speed of a 512 line from ftp.is.co.za.
It's pathetic.
We're in pursuit of a decent ISP.
 
I'm in Douglasdale, I suspect it has to do with the IP you get allocated once you capped
 
Hmmm.
Our situation is uncapped, and it's still pathetic, so mabey whether you're capped or not does not matter, maybey IS's network and IS<->SAIX peering is just carp.
 
killadoob said:
clipse you do resell is accounts correct?

if he has a problem what could it be
Click to expand...

Yes I do resell IS, as I said, hes not my customer and I havnt had customers reporting issues like this.

I believe its best to contact your ISP to work out a way around this problem.
 
Mr Beep is gonna sort this one out for me...:-)...Thanks
 
I am capped on my OpenWeb account and still downloading local at full speed. My VPN to work is running without problems. Gaming is great. I have no problems playing on the SAIX Battlefield 2 servers. I am as happy as a pig in Palestine with the OpenWeb acount.:D
 
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