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dakeyras

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It is wrong to source freelancers from this site. Apolagies for any time wasted.
 
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It would be interesting to know what is bad about this? I was looking for a freelance consultant I can outsource the websites to. I have neither the time, nor inclination to worry about the online marketing when I am nowhere close to being an expert on the subject. While I havent been a member since 2003 like you, I have been since 2006. That has some credibility at least? Even if your disregard the fact you and I used to play online games together.

Thanks however for showing me the error of my ways. I will instead outsource this through the normal avenues.
 
This is bad as more often than not the web developer will do all the hard work and end up with naught for their efforts.

What exactly do you bring to the table? An idea isn't enough. If you think its a revolutionary idea, then you should invest in it and pay for services rendered.
 
The idea behind outsourcing (the term I used) is to pay someone else to do something for you. Like how I outsource my admin to one company, accounting to an accountant. Why would I want to do anything myself when I can make more money doing what I do best? I want the same with a website. I dont want to update and maintain it. For the life of me I cant see what is dodgy about that. The only involvement I want in the site is paying for the monthly hosting and I assume the annual domain registration.
 
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The idea behind outsourcing (the term I used) is to pay someone else to do something for you. Like how I outsource my admin to one company, accounting to an accountant. Why would I want to do anything myself when I can make more money doing what I do best? I want the same with a website. I dont want to update and maintain it. For the life of me I cant see what is dodgy about that. The only involvement I want in the site is paying for the monthly hosting and I assume the annual domain registration.
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The perceived dodgy part comes in where you are looking for a partner to develop websites and do online marketing. It sounds like it is the only thing that the company does (probably isn't) and all you'll be doing is having coffee with prospective clients.

And that is why it is seen as dodgy and why you are asked what you will be doing.
 
All they are saying is that you should not advertise the Job like this, its not "professional" and that people who has done it this way has not paid for the dev. Not saying you will.
Its not how you should do it regardless of what your needs are, why not just hire someone from a company.

that way you have leverage on a company and they have leverage on you if you dont pay. Business is business thats how it goes :-)
 
Yeah, lesson learned. I used companies in the past and wanted to use a freelancer this time around. I have also done a stint as a freelance business consultant so I do have some preference for freelancing.

Avoiding doing business with a company is a valid strategy to keep costs down and it is also much less hassle to use an individual. The monthly retainer for a company is also quite prohibitive. I dont understand the aversion to using freelance developers. You get the same quality work done, just with less hassle and less cost (freelancers does not have the same operating costs as a company). With a company your fee includes rent, electricity, accounting fees, legal fees and a hundred other small expenses. Freelancers has much less expenses so can therefore charge less.

Having said all that I am looking at my options. If I need to go with a company I will, or I might even consider dusting off my rusty wordpress skills. Sorry if my post caused any confusion.

Edit: A company could charge me anything between R20k and R30k. With a freelance designer I could get away with R10k max. Same professional design. Same quality. Just at much less.
 
You can use freelance developers but you still need to pay them... Or am I missing something.
It appeared like you want them to work for free in the hope that the website itself will eventually make money for them.
Is that correct?
 
1. The website isnt going to make any money. At all. Which is why I only needed a freelancer or part time developer first develop and maintain it. Its an online presence and brand management.
2. If I wanted it for free I would have made my fiance teach herself webdev and do it for me.

Maybe the confusion came in when I said I need a partner and not an employee. I still want an employee and thats not gonna change.
 
Can we maybe just bury this thread? I had a specific need, and after seeing the replies I can see how I went about it the wrong way. I will instead follow the proper channels with no chance of miscommunication or confusion. Which is better for everyone I think you will agree.
 
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1. The website isnt going to make any money. At all. Which is why I only needed a freelancer or part time developer first develop and maintain it. Its an online presence and brand management.
2. If I wanted it for free I would have made my fiance teach herself webdev and do it for me.

Maybe the confusion came in when I said I need a partner and not an employee. I still want an employee and thats not gonna change.
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Just to let you know where I think the confusion came in (you've deleted you OP but it was in there too) then I'll drop it:

a) Yes, you said a partner, rather than an employee - partners usually don't get paid.
b) You said "The only involvement I want in the site is paying for the monthly hosting and I assume the annual domain registration."
- You should have added to that "and paying the freelancer for work provided" because it sounded like you were willing to pay for the hosting but not the work.

It's not personal but every so often, regularly, someone comes up with a 'brilliant' idea and want a 'partner' to make it happen for them with the idea that everyone will end up making money when the work is done. That's why you were misunderstood.

Now that you've clarified you're actually looking to employ someone on a freelance basis I don't see a problem with this thread and I'm sure no-one else does either. It was just a misunderstanding is all.
 
@Acid, yeah I know what DM and PM are, this thread looked more like trying to be "opportunistic" at first, @OP maybe if it was laid out more as a proper recruitment advert it would have have been perceived better. If it's for hiring someone, def PM or DM me or anyone in development here and get rates that suit your pocket and projects better.
 
dakeyras said:
It would be interesting to know what is bad about this? I was looking for a freelance consultant I can outsource the websites to. I have neither the time, nor inclination to worry about the online marketing when I am nowhere close to being an expert on the subject. While I havent been a member since 2003 like you, I have been since 2006. That has some credibility at least? Even if your disregard the fact you and I used to play online games together.

Thanks however for showing me the error of my ways. I will instead outsource this through the normal avenues.
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lol, no man. Wasn't meant as a "you don't have a credibility you suck" post. It's just I've seen (and been a part of some) of these JV's and it never worked out.

It sounds like you get someone else to start a website/do SEO and then flip the website for profit. I've had guys like that before, unfortunately they all scammed me in doing the work for them, and then made off with the $$

That's why i said, personally, I'd stay away from this.

*edit* Ah i see you were just looking for a freelancer you'd be paying regardless. Can see how that would confuse a simpleton like me.

BTW - Off topic. What games did we play together? Did I at least kick ass? :D
 
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