LUA in Vista

The_Unbeliever

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There is one thing about Vista though that, despite being in place to ensure system stability and halt the spread of viruses, will undoubtedly result in more support calls than ever. LUA: Limited User Account.

Administrator accounts run as shadow regular user accounts unless and until privileges are requested. Then Vista blues out the screen (a la the grey that XP does when you hit Start->Shutdown) and pops up a dialog asking the user to confirm the action is authorized. If you decline authorization, the program has no access beyond that of a regular user.

There are two problems with that. Firstly, even changing the system time requires privilege elevation, as well as opening, copying, editing, replacing, or whatever e.g. boot.ini, plus software installation, plus… I could go on, but I’m sure several readers know what I’m talking about if they’ve ever tried to treat their work computer like their home computer. (Think of that, on your home computer, as an administrator!) If you go through Windows, it pops up a regular confirmation dialog, then a notice that because LUA is on you’ll have to click okay at the next screen click okay to continue, then the LUA dialog, then finally the regular confirmation dialog again. Every. F’ing. Time.

Secondly, consider all the setup programs that check for admin rights. Because the administrator group token isn’t attached to the session unless and until it’s requested, many of these programs will wrongly assume you’re not an administrator and fail. And even if it doesn’t… I haven’t seen documentation on the scope of LUA exemption: per process? per process tree? per action? is there a time limit? Regardless, you’ll see at least one LUA dialog. And if you’re a click-through fanatic like my friend Greg, and don’t know what it is or how to turn it off, you’ll go “Aaaaaaagh yes you stupid ****ing piece of **** go!” and fling your ‘puter against the wall. Which results in: 1 support call.

*sigh*
 
Yeah LUA is a bit of a bitch but you get used to it very quickly. And you can also turn it off.

As for requiring admin rights to run programs, if you don't want to turn off LUA for some reason, simply right click the setup and say "Run as administrator". One extra click but it's easy.
 
LUA will be a blessing! Especially for the corporate world! no more users installing "free" screensavers and crap.

LUA btw is similar to the root account in linux. To install things you need root access etc.
 
Already had problems with a couple of Apps. refusing to install as they can't see admin account, even if you're logged in as a administrator.

Still, this 'feature' will be both a blessing and a curse, as I can control our rampant 'install everything you see' and 'the CD said I must install XYZ from it to play this song' mentality.

from a curse perspective, yes the support calls and the constant flashing I get as a developer (that can be disabled though)

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