Mac OSX Lion GM released - final Tuesday?

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Rashaad_Sallie

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Hi all

Im busy downloading the GM of Lion which come in at code no 11A511. Not sure how bug the download actually is but will update ye soon. Seeing that Apple releases mostly on a Tuesday, its possible that we could see Lion in the App Store THIS Tuesday - much earlier than expected. Would be a great move by Apple after all the rants about the "failure" of Final Cut Pro X which was released a short while ago.

Ill keep you posted and checkout my blog coming soon - see sig.
 
UPDATE:

Download completed and installed Lion. There are no updates after the install. Nothing noticeably changed from the last release but it does feel a lot more responsive. Seems like all the bugs have been ironed out as well.

I will be posting a how to make a Lion USB install disk.

"Don't forget to checkout our Apple blog coming soon - check the sig below"
 
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I'll wait a bit, don't want to run into any compatibility issues...
 
Aqua_lung said:
I'll wait a bit, don't want to run into any compatibility issues...
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Everything of mine works, Wacom, Printers (Lexmark, Xerox, Canon). The only issue I have is the BandLuxe Express card Modem - no 64bit drivers. Looks like i'll have to get one of those Vodacom babies.
 
Aqua_lung said:
I'll wait a bit, don't want to run into any compatibility issues...
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I'm just going to clone a backup hdd before I upgrade and see what happens. In the past my upgrades have been problem free but it's always a good idea to have a backup if you can.
 
bwana said:
I'm just going to clone a backup hdd before I upgrade and see what happens. In the past my upgrades have been problem free but it's always a good idea to have a backup if you can.
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I never have to backup.

I always partition my HDD with 100GB for the OS and Apps and the rest of the drive for the HOME (USER) folder. When i reinstall any OS all i do is reference my user account back to the 2nd partition and everything is back (emails, settings, whatever - just have to reinstall software.) Even the passwords to sites, apps and stuff are still there.

Ill make a tutorial of this on my blog sometime - see sig.
 
One thing is that if you do install Lion GM and don't like like and you use my method - make sure you make a backup of your MAIL and MAIL DOWNLOADS folder - cos Lion rearranges it for the new MAIL App. So if you go back to Snow Leopard then you won't be able to get back your emails.
 
Shardie said:
I never have to backup.
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I always have a backup - it's just common sense. Luckily my backups are incremental and therefore only take a few minutes.
Shardie said:
I always partition my HDD with 100GB for the OS and Apps and the rest of the drive for the HOME (USER) folder. When i reinstall any OS all i do is reference my user account back to the 2nd partition and everything is back (emails, settings, whatever - just have to reinstall software.) Even the passwords to sites, apps and stuff are still there.

Ill make a tutorial of this on my blog sometime - see sig.
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This has never made sense to me. If a drive fails, partitioning fails with it.

I need to have a 100% working copy of the drive available at any time. The last time my drive failed, in spectacular fashion I might add, I was forced to reinstall everything then reinstall my data and it took three times as long as it should have. Incidentally that was the last time I ever used time machine.
 
Yes fair enough if a drive fails everything is history. I meant i never backup when I need to reinstall an OS. i also have backups (Time machine and a full backup every 3 days using Super Duper). In fact I have 3 drives which constantly have backups - one at work, one at home and one with me all the time. I cannot afford to lose the work I've done.

Having a separate partition is way better or repairing your OS, keeping files organized and also like I said re-installing.

I have also had an incident where my drive fails, but luckily it was partitioned and was able to get all my stuff off the 2nd partition. It had bad blocks on the first partition. If the drive was not partitioned then everything would have been lost. I thin there are more advantages than disadvantages having you User folder on a separate drive or partition.
 
bwana said:
If a drive fails, partitioning fails with it.
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That depends on the type of failure.

I'll give you an example of what happened to a friend. I partitioned his HDD in 2 (50/50) with OS & data on the first partition. Second partition was a synch of the first one. The HDD failed, gazillions of bad sectors that could not be remapped that were localised to the first partition, the OS would not boot and windows could not even read the drive. Drive was mounted in Linux and tested, second partition was 100% and imaged to a new drive.

The second partition could have been /home in this scenario and all the data recovered.

This is one advantage of multiple partitions, another is when you do a reinstall of an OS you can happily format the system partition & reinstall leaving your data in place.

BUT: Always keep backups!
 
Shardie said:
Yes fair enough if a drive fails everything is history. I meant i never backup when I need to reinstall an OS. i also have backups (Time machine and a full backup every 3 days using Super Duper). In fact I have 3 drives which constantly have backups - one at work, one at home and one with me all the time. I cannot afford to lose the work I've done.

Having a separate partition is way better or repairing your OS, keeping files organized and also like I said re-installing.

I have also had an incident where my drive fails, but luckily it was partitioned and was able to get all my stuff off the 2nd partition. It had bad blocks on the first partition. If the drive was not partitioned then everything would have been lost. I thin there are more advantages than disadvantages having you User folder on a separate drive or partition.
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Since OsX came along I haven't had to repair my OS. I'm not even sure I ever had to do it Pre-OsX come to think of it.

Additionally when you start moving your User folder around things can break. For security I've always stored my mail on a encrypted disk image but every time an OS upgrade comes out I have to go in and fix it. I'm sure it's very similar to the mail problems you've just experienced with Lion.

Back when drives were expensive it made much more sense but these days I honestly dont see the value of it.
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I'll give you an example of what happened to a friend. I partitioned his HDD in 2 (50/50) with OS & data on the first partition. Second partition was a synch of the first one. The HDD failed, gazillions of bad sectors that could not be remapped that were localised to the first partition, the OS would not boot and windows could not even read the drive. Drive was mounted in Linux and tested, second partition was 100% and imaged to a new drive.
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Drives are slow enough as it is for me to ever want to mirror partitions.
 
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We talking about repairing permissions, which is recommended but not needed on a daily bases. You implying that "when you start moving your User folder around" as if we move it all over the place often. You move it ONCE and thats it. It doesn't matter where on the drive or partition it is, OSX will link to it perfectly. Ive been using my Home folder on a separate partition for 7 years with OSX and Windows and NEVER had an issue only that it has saved me many times when either the OS or drive fails on the first partition.

Drives are cheap today, yes, but it doesn't mean we partition for speed - its for safety, easy of use, organization, tidiness, etc etc. Maybe you need to invest in a Hybrid drive - only R1100 for a 500GB. When I get a new Macbook Pro, the first thing I do is take out the crappy 5400rpm drive and change it for a Hybrid or 7200rpm. Also Ive taken out my DVD Writer and added a second drive in its place - this is perfect for RAID, backups, Time machine, whatever.....

Doing an incremental backup is great but for me its useless and takes up space if I'm gonna backup my OS and applications because if something were to be corrupted (normally the OS), then id prefer to do a clean reinstall - takes my 1:30mins FYI (thats OS and all Apps with settings - Adobe, Mail, Final Cut, App settings and tons of others)

It would probably take you that time just to backup your drive before even attempting a reinstall.

This is what we are saying... its safer and your downtime is really limited as you will not need to backup just to reinstall.
 
Shardie said:
I never have to backup.

I always partition my HDD with 100GB for the OS and Apps and the rest of the drive for the HOME (USER) folder. When i reinstall any OS all i do is reference my user account back to the 2nd partition and everything is back (emails, settings, whatever - just have to reinstall software.) Even the passwords to sites, apps and stuff are still there.

Ill make a tutorial of this on my blog sometime - see sig.
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Being a past linux user I did this for a while, but OSX is not meant to run like this IMO, one partition is all I need with time machine now.
 
Shardie said:
We talking about repairing permissions, which is recommended but not needed on a daily bases. You implying that "when you start moving your User folder around" as if we move it all over the place often.
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No, I wasnt.

Shardie said:
Drives are cheap today, yes, but it doesn't mean we partition for speed - its for safety, easy of use, organization, tidiness, etc etc. Maybe you need to invest in a Hybrid drive - only R1100 for a 500GB. When I get a new Macbook Pro, the first thing I do is take out the crappy 5400rpm drive and change it for a Hybrid or 7200rpm. Also Ive taken out my DVD Writer and added a second drive in its place - this is perfect for RAID, backups, Time machine, whatever…..
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I still have my doubts.

And I've been using a hybrid for nearly a year now. :) What I aim to do is to remove the DVD and add a SSD for apps and the OS and keep the hybrid for storage.
Shardie said:
Doing an incremental backup is great but for me its useless and takes up space if I'm gonna backup my OS and applications because if something were to be corrupted (normally the OS), then id prefer to do a clean reinstall - takes my 1:30mins FYI (thats OS and all Apps with settings - Adobe, Mail, Final Cut, App settings and tons of others)
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of course it does - exactly the same amount of space your main drive is. All said and done it it far quicker to install the cloned replacement drive - FYI it takes 5 minutes and I'm back up and running. 1½ hours to reinstall the OS and apps is time wasted.

Shardie said:
It would probably take you that time just to backup your drive before even attempting a reinstall.
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My backup today took 15 minutes - it's incremental after all. :)

Shardie said:
This is what we are saying... its safer and your downtime is really limited as you will not need to backup just to reinstall.
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If something goes wrong I have a drive that I can ether install immediately or boot from via FW.
 
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So, beside the hybrid drives, ssd's and home folders, is Lion going to be released tomorrow?:)
 
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