Mac's dodgy millions

saturnz said:
is this still a thing, compared to other arms deals wrapped up in corruption this is small change




lol, seriously?
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Of course I stand corrected about Rob Davies. Method used to compile list not in any way scientific. Perhaps they hide their corruption better than others? I don't know. I just picked names I see less often on reports about corruption.
 
ForceFate said:
Of course I stand corrected about Rob Davies. Method used to compile list not in any way scientific. Perhaps they hide their corruption better than others? I don't know. I just picked names I see less often on reports about corruption.
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Ibrahim Patel serves no real purpose, his only worthwhile output the NDP has long been forgotten- so one wonders why he is still getting paid

The other two I will just have to go with association, although I to have to concede that I do have some respect for both.
 
It disgusts me to think that there are so many people who truly believes the lies and more lies that are being spewed forth by the ANC government. Just waiting for the evidence that will eventually point to the involvement of Nelson Mandela. Everyone had their hands in the cookie jar!
 
Unearthing a buried trail of lies of Mac Maharaj's relationship with Shaik

Documents seen by the M&G have reopened questions regarding an investigation by the now-defunct Scorpions of presidential spokesperson Mac Maharaj.

The documents include details of Maharaj’s evidence when questioned by the Scorpions in 2003 about a series of payments he received from Schabir Shaik.

They suggest Maharaj lied repeatedly about benefits obtained via Shaik— most notably two payments of 600,000 French Francs (totaling roughly R1-million at the time) laundered through a Swiss bank account held by Shaik.

In 2003, before the existence of the French payments was known, Maharaj and his wife Zarina formally denied receiving any foreign payments from or via Shaik and did not disclose the existence of the Swiss bank account where Zarina received them.

Circumstantial factors suggest the money came from Shaik’s French partner, defense company Thomson-CSF, now renamed Thales.

Shaik was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment, including for his role in an agreement by Thales to pay Zuma to secure the then deputy- president’s protection and support. He was later released on “medical parole”.

Thales had an interest in several projects under the department of transport, where Maharaj was then minister, but no evidence emerged that Maharaj had played a role in the awarding of contracts.

These included the barcode card drivers license contract awarded to Prodiba – in which Thales and Shaik’s Nkobi Group each had a 33% share.

The timing of the French payments via Switzerland are highly suggestive that they related to the drivers licence tender.

The first, on October 11 1996, was made just seven days after the formal award of the contract. The second payment, on March 11 1997, took place just under two weeks after the transport department and the consortium involving Thales and Shaik’s company signed the contract.

The flow of funds was detailed in a December 2004 document from the Swiss district attorney’s office, delivered in response to a Scorpions request for foreign judicial assistance. (see Mac’s Big Whoppers)

The M&G has also seen details of other benefits paid by Shaik totaling about R400,000 which the Scorpions did not believe was reasonably possibly all received in payment for consulting work done for Shaik by Zarina – as the Maharajs had claimed.

The NPA was also aware of evidence showing Shaik’s company picked up the tab for a Maharaj family holiday in Disney World, as well as payments to a Maharaj family trust, the Milsek Trust.

The Disney trip and Milsek payments were revealed by the Sunday Times in 2003, leading to an investigation by FirstRand, where Maharaj was a director since he left Cabinet in 1999.

The bank could find no evidence of corruption, but Maharaj resigned.

When Maharaj became aware of the Swiss information he launched applications in early 2007 in South Africa and Switzerland to challenge the disclosure of the Swiss banking information to the Scorpions.

It is not clear what happened to the cases. By the end of 2007, Zuma had defeated Mbeki at Polokwane and the Scorpions were on the back foot.

Responding to questions this week, the National Prosecuting Authority said: “As far as our prosecutors who were involved in the matter, the matter was closed at the time Advocate Mokotedi Mpshe was acting NPA head and they are not aware of any other investigation.”

Maharaj was sent detailed questions, but merely raised issues around the source of M&G investigation.

He noted: “With reference to your reliance on the record of the inquiry held in terms of section 28 of the National Prosecuting Authority Act, kindly advise from whom, when and under what circumstances you obtained the said record.”

Big Mac’s big whoppers unwrapped
Although Mac Maharaj has denied that he received any offshore payments from Schabir Shaik, the evidence shows he did.

In his section 28 interview by the Scorpions in 2003, Maharaj was asked whether he or his wife were account holders of any overseas bank accounts during the period 1995 to 2000.

He answered: “Yes. An account with Allied Dunbar International, which had been opened around 1977/1980, when we were living in Zambia. This account was closed around 2000.”

Maharaj was also asked whether he had knowledge of any payments made by Shaik or anyone on his behalf during the period 1995 to 2000 into any overseas accounts held by him and/or his wife.

He replied: “None.”

His wife, Zarina Maharaj, also submitted a statement, saying: “As far as I recall, no funds were deposited into my overseas accounts by the above.”

Contrary to this, evidence supplied to the Scorpions by the Swiss judicial authorities in 2004 showed:

Minderley Investment, a company incorporated in the British Virgin Isles, held an account at Banque Alliance SGS, Geneva, between October 11 1996 and March 26 2002.
Schabir Shaik was the beneficial owner of the account.
Only two incoming transfers were made into the account: on October 11 1996, a transfer of 600 000 French francs from Banque Paribas in Paris, and on March 13 1997, another transfer of the same amount from the same bank.
Paribas is known to have been one of the main bankers for Thales, the French company that had a relationship with Shaik.
Just after the transfers into the Minderley account, the amounts of $111 111 and $100 000 were transferred into another account at Banque SCS, registered in the name of Zarina Maharaj.
The Zarina Maharaj SCS account was opened on October 14 1996 and closed on April 6 2000.
On October 22 1996, $96 000 was transferred to the Maharaj account at Allied Dunbar. On April 10 1997, a further $65 000 was transferred to the Allied Dunbar account. When the Banque Alliance SGS account was closed, a cheque for the balance was written, payable to Zarina Maharaj. — amaBhungane
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https://mg.co.za/article/2017-10-05...-lies-of-mac-maharajs-relationship-with-shaik
 
Ryansr said:
It disgusts me to think that there are so many people who truly believes the lies and more lies that are being spewed forth by the ANC government. Just waiting for the evidence that will eventually point to the involvement of Nelson Mandela. Everyone had their hands in the cookie jar!
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Give it time, Rome was not built in a day, maybe Mandela took a couple of millions to repay himself for all those years he spent in jail, who knows? as disgusting as it may be to you, pretending not to know what wrong with the people who lap up ANC's lies is plain disingenous, it is the duty of those of us who have seen the light or who have never been in the dark to start with to educate these people, sitting on your high horse and being disgusted is not going to help, instead of that maybe let us reach out for those who have not seen the light and lead them to the light, it's either that or we will be disgusted for the rest if our lives.
 
thechamp said:
Give it time, Rome was not built in a day, maybe Mandela took a couple of millions to repay himself for all those years he spent in jail, who knows? as disgusting as it may be to you, pretending not to know what wrong with the people who lap up ANC's lies is plain disingenous, it is the duty of those of us who have seen the light or who have never been in the dark to start with to educate these people, sitting on your high horse and being disgusted is not going to help, instead of that maybe let us reach out for those who have not seen the light and lead them to the light, it's either that or we will be disgusted for the rest if our lives.
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No organisation that I know of is so absolutely and desperately in sweltering darkness like the ANC. Their half-truths know no boundaries, their members are so far removed from any form of clear thinking, morality - or even ethics, that it will only take death to wake them up. The ANC is a revolting pile of rotten carcasses and poisonous asps, puffed up with noxious gasses of vengeful hatred, broken promises, putrid ideals, self-importance, self-love, self pity and thorough incompetence. In short, its followers are a complete and utter waste of human skin. Only fire and death can render it to any acceptable form.
Sitting on your high ANC horse and continually defending your ANC both disgusts and nauseates me. "Give it time" -- time for what? More money laundering? More lies? More rape? More murder? More terrorism? More robbery? More broken bodies, lives, hopes and dreams? "...lead them to the light" -- LOL Crikey, if you've been sitting in darkness for over 100 years years and you still cannot see light, then you are blind and cannot lead.
 
infscrtyrisk said:
No organisation that I know of is so absolutely and desperately in sweltering darkness like the ANC. Their half-truths know no boundaries, their members are so far removed from any form of clear thinking, morality - or even ethics, that it will only take death to wake them up. The ANC is a revolting pile of rotten carcasses and poisonous asps, puffed up with noxious gasses of vengeful hatred, broken promises, putrid ideals, self-importance, self-love, self pity and thorough incompetence. In short, its followers are a complete and utter waste of human skin. Only fire and death can render it to any acceptable form.
Sitting on your high ANC horse and continually defending your ANC both disgusts and nauseates me. "Give it time" -- time for what? More money laundering? More lies? More rape? More murder? More terrorism? More robbery? More broken bodies, lives, hopes and dreams? "...lead them to the light" -- LOL Crikey, if you've been sitting in darkness for over 100 years years and you still cannot see light, then you are blind and cannot lead.
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It's fine then be nauseated and disgusted all you want and see where it gets you.
 
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