Marius Fransman Jewish Comments Row

I have to say "disappearing" posts make a thread almost impossible to follow.

Best i not hit the bee hive with a stick, it always leads to trouble in paradise !
 
grantza said:
I have to say "disappearing" posts make a thread almost impossible to follow.

Best i not hit the bee hive with a stick, it always leads to trouble in paradise !
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I don't mind derogatory posts against forum rules being removed.
My posts were deleted for no reason at all apart from backing up and possibly confirming Fransmans "suspicions".
 
Haldex said:
I don't mind derogatory posts against forum rules being removed.
My posts were deleted for no reason at all apart from backing up and possibly confirming Fransmans "suspicions".
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This is exactly the problem i have with "disappearing" posts.
Sometimes it may have content that skirt the bounds and parameters of forum rules, but it also may contain relevant argument. Alas, the entire post is deleted rendering a very disjointed thread.
 
Haldex has had four hours now to actually provide proof of his assertions.
Having completely and utterly failed to do that, I think we can rest assured that his comments simply amounted to trolling as usual.
 
Garyvdh said:
Haldex has had four hours now to actually provide proof of his assertions.
Having completely and utterly failed to do that, I think we can rest assured that his comments simply amounted to trolling as usual.
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Well how was I to know I had to supply proof?
DA has criticised the building of 3 mosques in GP including the Turkish mosque and mosque in Houghton.
They also made poor statements against pro Palestinian rallies in kzn during Israeli apartheid week earlier this year.
They share the same ideologies and are in cahoots with the Jewish board of deputies seen in pic above.

So my statement of DA being anti Muslim and pro Jewish is hardly baseless or warrant of being deleted.

I was neither challenged till now to provide "proof".
 
Haldex said:
Well how was I to know I had to supply proof?
DA has criticised the building of 3 mosques in GP including the Turkish mosque and mosque in Houghton.
They also made poor statements against pro Palestinian rallies in kzn during Israeli apartheid week earlier this year.
They share the same ideologies and are in cahoots with the Jewish board of deputies seen in pic above.

So my statement of DA being anti Muslim and pro Jewish is hardly baseless or warrant of being deleted.

I was neither challenged till now to provide "proof".
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If indeed true, on what grounds where they opposed? And don't come back with anti-Muslim/pro-Jewish rhetoric... give the facts.
 
MickeyD said:
Rubbish.




< Déjà vu all over again >
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Why rubbish? They constantly backing Jewish led organisations and constantly criticising Muslim efforts thus far.
They even criticised gift of the givers a Muslim owned charity.

How about trying to prove me wrong?
 
MickeyD said:
If indeed true, on what grounds where they opposed? And don't come back with anti-Muslim/pro-Jewish rhetoric... give the facts.
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The mosques?
It was in the local newspapers.
If I remember correctly there was a petition against the mosque in Houghton due to possible traffic congestion and the loud call of prayers in what is GPs most affluent suburb. This was 3 years ago before the foundation was even laid. They lost.
They were against the Turkish mosque due to the height and I think they even called it an eye sore to the landscape, the DA local rep went as far as falsifying land acts to prove that the height of the mosque was not allowed due to it being next to an airport.
They lost again.
Those are trivial and biased objections if you ask me.
 
Haldex said:
The mosques?
It was in the local newspapers.
If I remember correctly there was a petition against the mosque in Houghton due to possible traffic congestion and the loud call of prayers in what is GPs most affluent suburb. This was 3 years ago before the foundation was even laid. They lost.
They were against the Turkish mosque due to the height and I think they even called it an eye sore to the landscape, the DA local rep went as far as falsifying land acts to prove that the height of the mosque was not allowed due to it being next to an airport.
They lost again.
Those are trivial and biased objections if you ask me.
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Even if it is remotely true, how is that even relevant to this thread?

Specifically, Mr Fransman stated the following:

We saw that the DA had given over building contracts .. as well as lots of contracts in Woodstock and Observatory that historically were in the hands of Muslim participants and now they have given it to people from the Jewish community; so that we've picked up and so that is not right. We must not divide our people.
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It's relevant as Fransmans claim could be correct.
If there is proof if the change in contracts, the reputation the DA has against the Muslim populations mindset and their stance with Jewish organisations then should be called out on it.

Yes it could cause tensions between the two but surely the DA can't get away with such favouritism.
 
Haldex said:
It's relevant as Fransmans claim could be correct.
If there is proof if the change in contracts, the reputation the DA has against the Muslim populations mindset and their stance with Jewish organisations then should be called out on it.

Yes it could cause tensions between the two but surely the DA can't get away with such favouritism.
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If you are so convinced then lodge a complaint with the relevant authorities.
 
MickeyD said:
If you are so convinced then lodge a complaint with the relevant authorities.
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Ill let the relevant people do the research and findings.
It's very important that this comes out, the Muslim population that voted DA into power should be aware of their tactics if found guilty, it affects them directly.
The rest of the country should also be aware of it, they have one province, they cannot have control of the country.
 
Haldex said:
Ill let the relevant people do the research and findings.
It's very important that this comes out, the Muslim population that voted DA into power should be aware of their tactics if found guilty, it affects them directly.
The rest of the country should also be aware of it, they have one province, they cannot have control of the country.
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You're blowing smoke... Get the facts and then publicise it.
 
The fact that the DA was mostly founded by Jewish people doesn't mean the policies and intent these days is to serve a select, they are here to serve us all.
 
If I remember correctly there was a petition against the mosque in Houghton due to possible traffic congestion and the loud call of prayers in what is GPs most affluent suburb.
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I would also protest against that.
 
Fudzy said:
The fact that the DA was mostly founded by Jewish people doesn't mean the policies and intent these days is to serve a select, they are here to serve us all.
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Unless you want to buy some wine with your meal after 6pm.
 
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