Matric Certificate as a must

I have a few guys in my team without a matric, had to write a motivation to hire one of them, but he has 10+ years experience, all the certifications you can have in his field and if you chat to the guy you can see he really knows his stuff. Was a no brainer to hire him, and he earns more than his colleagues, even some with degrees. Matric/Degree's aren't that important if you're good at what you do, you will find a job without a problem.
 
It's there to stop the chancers of the idiotic youth for trying to apply for jobs that they could clearly never do and lets them know they are not wanted. A company that would make it an absolute requirement is probably not the kind of business someone without a matric but solid experience would want to work at anyway. People are no longer forced to embrace the closed mindedness of yesteryear and any company worth their weight would consider the applicant without matric.

There are 2 things to remember here. Firstly, if the guy without matric but has experience is still employed then there is probably a reason, being that he is decent at what he does. If that logic fails then passing a simple test for competency should weed the odd few useless ones out.
 
phiber said:
I have a few guys in my team without a matric, had to write a motivation to hire one of them, but he has 10+ years experience, all the certifications you can have in his field and if you chat to the guy you can see he really knows his stuff. Was a no brainer to hire him, and he earns more than his colleagues, even some with degrees. Matric/Degree's aren't that important if you're good at what you do, you will find a job without a problem.
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I also consider my recent addition a no brainer, however it seems that generally, many companies are still using that logic.
I have another candidate who dropped out in Grade 10, so he only has Grade 9 (Std 7), but has in the last decade achieved CCNA, CCNP and RHCSA.
 
Nemus said:
Firstly, please forgive me if this is the wrong section, wasn't sure where exactly this would fall in. Business is probably as good as any...


So, I do a bit of recruiting for our company, and therefor also scour the net a bit to do some headhunting..
I've noticed a trend that most ads will post that having Matric is an absolute necessity. Now that makes sense in some positions, i guess. However, when wanting to employ a Developer with 20 years+ experience, or when you want to employ a receptionist, why would Matric be essential?

Would you take someone with a Matric and 1 year experience over someone with Grade 11 and 5 years+ experience?
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I personally would not interview a developer with out at least matric and not already started on tertiary education if they had 5+ yrs experience. I do consider university level short courses to also fall under tertiary education.

Simply because in development, education still produces better developers. Too often people say "Hey, this 23 yr older developer with grade 10 and 6 years experience is better than this university graduate with 0yrs experience" instead of comparing their years on the job vs age.

It would only be for non-technical management roles that I would take years experience over education.
 
Nemus said:
I also consider my recent addition a no brainer, however it seems that generally, many companies are still using that logic.
I have another candidate who dropped out in Grade 10, so he only has Grade 9 (Std 7), but has in the last decade achieved CCNA, CCNP and RHCSA.
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But your highest education wins. Back in my school days if you had a trade certificate you left school with a Standard 7 (Grade 9) to go to trade (tech) school. Nobody ever said this qualified boiler maker only has Standard 9, no they would say he achieved his N levels.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
But your highest education wins. Back in my school days if you had a trade certificate you left school with a Standard 7 (Grade 9) to go to trade (tech) school. Nobody ever said this qualified boiler maker only has Standard 9, no they would say he achieved his N levels.
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I know a lot of artisans that are technically not qualified artisans, but have "Done Their Time". my own brother included.....

I have seen a lot of Highly qualified University engineers cockup on the mine, only to run to the old foreman to save their bacon!

Me? Not a big fan of the paper......Oh! and for what it's worth, and much to my late fathers disgust, I ditched my three years electrical apprenticeship 6 weeks before me trade test! Do I regret it? Only when I am drunk and have to change a light bulb for the English HO!
 
Mortymoose said:
Take the person that can do the job in the manner you require!

Papers maketh not the man!
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I had somebody constantly say that and brag about how well he was doing without a university degree. He changed his attitude once I got him hooked onto Edx. He is now a far a better developer and cannot stop studying.

Development requires continuous learning and paper is important. I've worked with too many developers who feel they are too cleaver to study and not one of them will I ever consider when we are looking for staff. Funny thing is that these guys are the vegetarians of IT as they always have to tell you each day they don't have "dem papers" yet the graduates (some even with Phds), will never mention their achievements.
 
Mortymoose said:
I know a lot of artisans that are technically not qualified artisans, but have "Done Their Time". my own brother included.....

I have seen a lot of Highly qualified University engineers cockup on the mine, only to run to the old foreman to save their bacon!

Me? Not a big fan of the paper......Oh! and for what it's worth, and much to my late fathers disgust, I ditched my three years electrical apprenticeship 6 weeks before me trade test! Do I regret it? Only when I am drunk and have to change a light bulb for the English HO!
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If my wife and I ever need to leave South Africa it will be on her trade certificate. She is on the top 10 skills shortage list of every desirable country. Thats the cost of not having the papers.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
If my wife and I ever need to leave South Africa it will be on her trade certificate. She is on the top 10 skills shortage list of every desirable country. Thats the cost of not having the papers.
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Hahaha! My English HO is the same, she has all the qualifications in the family....... she likes to study and would do random courses when bored!
 
2 sides to every coin. Thanks for the insights.
I agree with Dev guys requiring Matric, as that is the foundational requirement of programming courses all over..

On the flipside, you have a network admin who, without matric, managed to do all the required certs as the private institutes asks only for money, not matric.
So either way i guess...
 
It depends hey,

I still believe Experience should not be overlooked.
 
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