MDMA *** bad USSD response received *** - kind request

darius2

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Hi,

today, MDMA started to generate for USSD balance check code sent.
Ok.
It was due to
CME error
no carrier

than I tested USSD with putty
and responses are ok
and MDMA generates the same error.

Ok.
I know the problem and try to find a solution writing basic parser for Linux.
Did your telecom ever generated such error notice, using USSD in MDMA ?

btw
Operator's field is still set to : UNKNOWN
Is my telecom not under legal obligation to broadcast USSD id code ?

Darius

*** bad USSD response received ***
*** bad USSD response received ***

from putty
============
AT+CUSD=1,"*155#",15
+CME ERROR: 100

AT+CUSD=1,"*155#",15
NO CARRIER

AT+CUSD=1,"*155#",15
ERROR

AT+CUSD=1,"*155#",15
OK

+CUSD: 0," balance info ...."

=========
back to MDMA USSD feature

*** bad USSD response received ***
 
follow-up

USSD workd for some time and stopped to work


AT+CUSD=1,"*155#",15

generates no response

I am interested in legalities, as I have already contacted my telecom and Huawei many times (Huawei is building 3G infrastructure for my telecom) asking
about USSD support.

Today USSD service is as bad as it was 3 months ago.
There is no USSD service at all at this time.

I would like to know, if under Conventions, Acts, Rules, Terms set by the International Telecommunication Union, telecoms are obliged or not to provide USSD service to end-users ?

And please let me know if USSD service is provided by your telecoms.
If yes, what is a quality of USSD service in your region ?

Darius

oh, no
my modem started to disconnect from the Internet (E169)
 
Quality of USSD is influenced by many factors. When we supply a client with a USSD service we have to take into account the consumers handset, the networks towers, the networks load, our servers and of course our clients servers.

USSD sessions can remain open until timed out and this causes a lot of headaches at all levels. Its the technology and not the infrastructure thats the problem - so stop moaning.
 
Quality of USSD is influenced by many factors. When we supply a client with a USSD service we have to take into account the consumers handset, the networks towers, the networks load, our servers and of course our clients servers.

USSD sessions can remain open until timed out and this causes a lot of headaches at all levels. Its the technology and not the infrastructure thats the problem - so stop moaning.

Ok.
What telecom do you represent and what TC technology standard do you mean ?
USSD service is highly reliable in cell phone.
Problems are with USSD service for cellular modem.

Technology is neither complicated not new or modern.
Already in operation in the last 10 years.

In case of network overload, USSD response is simply delayed, that's all.

There are many other ways to transmit and request USSD.
Any 3G HSDPA service must be reliable and especially service like
account balance management with balance check USSD commands.

It's a legal not technical problem, if my telecom is legally obliged under
end-user contract, under ITU Regulations

International Telecommunication Regulations (ITRs)
http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/itr/

under
International Telecommunication Convention
http://openlibrary.org/b/OL2420433M

to provide end-users with quality service, set by the above Regulations and Convention and local acts, regulations, rules.

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my search for USSD term at website of the ITU generated the following list, so you can see USSD is an official standard, not option in Telecom World.

I have already contacted ITU's General Secretariat
and expect to get more details about USSD telecom contract service
in due time .
I would like to know if not sending Operator's name (set to UNKNOWN) for MDMA application is in a violation of the above named Convention or not.

It is really not common not to have my operator's name displayed on LCD of my cell phone.
In case of cellular modem and MDMA application, such service is downgraded by my Telecom.

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International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
Place des Nations
1211 Geneva 20
Switzerland
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Darius

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I do not represent a Telecom, I work for a WASP that works closely with all 3 networks. We have access to many phones and many modems and our clients run many services. I also do not defend or knock any of these networks as all my comments are personal and not associated with my employer.

My experience as someone who tests these things everyday, there not 100% reliable and the problem can be anywhere. Your also assuming that because Huawei are installing some infrastructure, this should have a direct influence on your hardware (modem).

Unlikely.

At the end of the day if the networks USSD infrastructure is not happy, it does not matter what hardware vendor you use. Also you are questioning if our local networks adhere to "standards" with certain AT commands and you've discovered that they don't - great if you can convince them to do so (seriously).

I think its great that your going to these lengths to do your homework, but a reality check all your going to get (LOL on your statements about reliability, this is Africa what you expect).
 
I do not represent a Telecom, I work for a WASP that works closely with all 3 networks. We have access to many phones and many modems and our clients run many services. I also do not defend or knock any of these networks as all my comments are personal and not associated with my employer.

Hi,

one question, WASP stays for what ?
Could you tell me what services can be run on cellular modems , other than
Internet access ?


My experience as someone who tests these things everyday, there not 100% reliable and the problem can be anywhere. Your also assuming that because Huawei are installing some infrastructure, this should have a direct influence on your hardware (modem).

Unlikely.

quite the opposite,
I am really happy with Huawei, as I can call its office when problem come.
Under telecommunication standards, rules, regulations, convention,
telecom operator is obliged to meet some standards to make service reliable
and as reliable as possible.

I can assume infrastructure by Huawei is still under tests, so the problems are common.

At the end of the day if the networks USSD infrastructure is not happy, it does not matter what hardware vendor you use. Also you are questioning if our local networks adhere to "standards" with certain AT commands and you've discovered that they don't - great if you can convince them to do so (seriously).

I think its great that your going to these lengths to do your homework, but a reality check all your going to get (LOL on your statements about reliability, this is Africa what you expect).

Ok. I live in Europe.
Greetings to Africa.
My friend just develops Global University infrastructure in Africa.

At Internet Sociaty Conference in Prague, a long time ago,
we discussed how to develop Internet in Africa, Asia.
It was so long ago.

Today world goes mobile and cellular modems are hot stuff.
I develop location based services , so any telecom service , my solution developed relies on, must be as reliable as possible i.e. 99.99999% 24h.

So I am really happy with my telecom, providing me HSDPA service, with Huawei modems, as I don't have any other option.

I have never tested Option products.
Acer notebooks come with embedded Option 380 modem inside.

I just would like to know if MDMA can work with Option products.

USSD service improved today ;)

greetings,

Darius
 
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