Microsoft Edge flags Firefox installer

Bryn said:
I like Safari. The gesture animations are nice, battery life is massively better than other browsers from my experience, the address and bookmarks bars conserve more space, and it renders font weights the best of any browser I've used in macOS. I just really like it as a daily driver.

For development I usually use FF DE.
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Why I don't like Safari as a dev:
- inspector tool is useless
- a div cannot go outside of the domains of its parent, e.g. a modal will be cut off. This means you need to add modals to the base of the page instead of the individual component you are dealing with
- up until around 2018 I think it was, having a console.log of an object would crash the JS in Safari, all JS would break from that point onward.
- autoplay is fked, that includes trying to do things like have clicking somewhere else triggering the play
- so behind on the html spec, lots of animation stuff missing, etc.
- VP9 support, AV1, have to encode a separate H265 just for Safari (and iOS)

Safari is basically the IE of MacOS.

FF has compact mode, and one of the first things I install on a laptop is touchpadswipe and sometimes gesturify.

It just feels like Apple abandoned Safari a few years ago and it's been given to a maintenance team.
 
Bryn said:
You mean downgrade from Edge to Firefox?

I thought FF was garbage until I used it on macOS. The text rendering is miles better, which was basically my only problem with it on Windows. And Firefox Developer Edition is pretty amazing for developers, and renders noticeably faster than regular Firefox for some reason.

These days I use only Safari and FF DE.
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I'm in the same boat, some relatively wide (lots of columns) reports on our BI platform are absolutely dog slow to render on anything but Firefox, the difference is night and day. Haven't been able to quite figure out why.

Been using Safari as a daily for all other things, and no big issues really. Super fast although the auto refresh thing can be annoying
 
Johnatan56 said:
Why I don't like Safari as a dev:
- inspector tool is useless
- a div cannot go outside of the domains of its parent, e.g. a modal will be cut off. This means you need to add modals to the base of the page instead of the individual component you are dealing with
- up until around 2018 I think it was, having a console.log of an object would crash the JS in Safari, all JS would break from that point onward.
- autoplay is fked, that includes trying to do things like have clicking somewhere else triggering the play
- so behind on the html spec, lots of animation stuff missing, etc.
- VP9 support, AV1, have to encode a separate H265 just for Safari (and iOS)

Safari is basically the IE of MacOS.
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I agree with all of that. I only like Safari for browsing, not for development. And there are a bunch of considerations needed for Safari that other browsers don't have, like those you've mentioned and other stuff like extra display values to prevent CSS Grid from breaking or headers not pushing the page down.

For as long as I've been doing web development (only a few years), ensuring modals are at the bottom of the page structure has always been best practice. Precisely to ensure compatibility.
 
prOd said:
I'm in the same boat, some relatively wide (lots of columns) reports on our BI platform are absolutely dog slow to render on anything but Firefox, the difference is night and day. Haven't been able to quite figure out why.

Been using Safari as a daily for all other things, and no big issues really. Super fast although the auto refresh thing can be annoying
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Have you used Chrome's built-in performance profiler? Guessing you're painting on the main thread, FF offloads it to the GPU for a while now if it can, so is quite a bit faster.
 
Solitude said:
Ha, I've actually donated money to them a while back.

However, I've since switched to Chrome. Had a problem in Firefox but now for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Was big enough to make me switch however.
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Not picky about browsers, just docs and nothing beats MDN.
 
Edge behaves as it should. The only browsers that should be used to download another browser, are Safari and Internet Explorer.
 
system32 said:
o_O :eek:

Hey hey, I can do this too: "Random website on github.io says X is better"

Match your quote and raise by one:
https://www.expressvpn.com/blog/best-browsers-for-privacy/
https://www.debugbar.com/chrome-vs-firefox/

PS.
We've had this discussion before.
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Lol my link links to seven other sources as well. They can't all be wrong now can they?
GoofySmurf said:
Yeh thats what google would like yo u to think. I will stick with opensource thank you. Everyone doesnt eat corporate propaganda.
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You do know Chromium is open source right? https://www.chromium.org/
 
I use Brave browser for years now. It does the job quite well, and has Tor built into it.
 
1) Download Ninite Installer
2) Install all other browsers (except edge which never gets used ever again)
 
Wayne2k said:
How much BAT u got
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I installed Brave on the company corporate network since most of the cubicle diggers and devs browse FB and look at porn and such during their break.

I don't care what they do....loads of traffic is tor encrypted too. We accumulate quite a bit from BTC/ETH mining and BAT tokens...enough to cover rent and electricity. Many ways to skin a cat once you have enough liquidity.
 
Rather use Lynx. Lower resource usage and faster than any of the alternatives. Also can not be tracked via web beacons.
 
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