Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

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http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-32658340

Windows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.

Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.

His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".

Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.

Mr Nixon made his comments during Microsoft's Ignite conference held in Chicago this week.

In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software.

"Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.
'No Windows 11'

The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.

"There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft.

He said Microsoft had in the past deliberately avoided using the name "Windows 9" and instead chose Windows 10 as a way to signify a break with a past which involved successive stand-alone versions of the operating system.

However, he said, working in that way had created many problems for Microsoft and its customers.

"Every three years or so Microsoft would sit down and create 'the next great OS'," he said.
Microsoft has developed the HoloLens augmented reality system for use with Windows 10

"The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."

Microsoft also had to spend a huge amount of money and marketing muscle to convince people that they needed this new version, and that it was better than anything that had come before, he explained.

Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them, he added.
'Positive step'

Most of the revenue generated by Windows for Microsoft came from sales of new PCs and this was unlikely to be affected by the change, Mr Kleynhans pointed out.

"Overall this is a positive step, but it does have some risks," he said.

"Microsoft will have to work hard to keep generating updates and new features, he said, adding that questions still remained about how corporate customers would adapt to the change and how Microsoft would provide support.

"It doesn't mean that Windows is frozen and will never move forward again," Mr Kleynhans told the BBC.

"Indeed we are about to see the opposite, with the speed of Windows updates shifting into high gear."
 
Misleading title as they will still create Windows versions but it will be a free update like OSX, iOS, Android. The current versioning will fall away and they'll call it something else just like they moved away from the year version numbers.


For your average Joe non technical person who uses Windows for email and facebook and doesn't have uncapped, bandwidth will be an issue for these updates and apps moving to the store. App downloads through the Windows store will also be be large as I suspect many home Windows apps will become exclusive app downloads.

Telkom seriously need to upgrade entry-level speeds to 4Mbps or SA will fall behind in this new fat-download online world.
 
Telkom seriously need to upgrade entry-level speeds to 4Mbps or SA will fall behind in this new fat-download online world.
They will need major infrastructure upgrades to do that. They cannot even deliver 4Mbps to many people now.
 
Why did they name the OS Windows 10 then? Why not just call it Windows or Windows *something not numeric* if it's never going to have a successor.
 
Why did they name the OS Windows 10 then? Why not just call it Windows or Windows *something not numeric* if it's never going to have a successor.
They must firstly bring the idea to people and then also test it in the real world. It will still have a build string, they are just copying Google Chrome in that the end user don't need to know on what version he is on apart for troubleshooting and bug reporting.
 
This is my place holder post for when Microsoft releases the next version of Windows at some point in the future.
 
There seem to be a hundred different interpretations of those comments, its almost as bad as how people had to intepret Major Nelson's stuff to make any sense in the early days of Xbox One.

How I see it is that we're stepping away from versioning where Microsoft stops at a build number and says "this is feature complete, lets move to launch and update support now." We'll still have actual Windows versions, but we're also going to have a rolling release cycle, similar to having the option ticked in Linux installers to fetch the latest updates and software while you're still in the install window. Microsoft will probably ask for you to have a working internet connection to have all your software updated before you boot into the desktop for the first time.
 
http://m.bbc.com/news/technology-32658340

Windows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.

Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.

His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".

Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.

Mr Nixon made his comments during Microsoft's Ignite conference held in Chicago this week.

In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software.

"Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.
'No Windows 11'

The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.

"There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft.

He said Microsoft had in the past deliberately avoided using the name "Windows 9" and instead chose Windows 10 as a way to signify a break with a past which involved successive stand-alone versions of the operating system.

However, he said, working in that way had created many problems for Microsoft and its customers.

"Every three years or so Microsoft would sit down and create 'the next great OS'," he said.
Microsoft has developed the HoloLens augmented reality system for use with Windows 10

"The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."

Microsoft also had to spend a huge amount of money and marketing muscle to convince people that they needed this new version, and that it was better than anything that had come before, he explained.

Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them, he added.
'Positive step'

Most of the revenue generated by Windows for Microsoft came from sales of new PCs and this was unlikely to be affected by the change, Mr Kleynhans pointed out.

"Overall this is a positive step, but it does have some risks," he said.

"Microsoft will have to work hard to keep generating updates and new features, he said, adding that questions still remained about how corporate customers would adapt to the change and how Microsoft would provide support.

"It doesn't mean that Windows is frozen and will never move forward again," Mr Kleynhans told the BBC.

"Indeed we are about to see the opposite, with the speed of Windows updates shifting into high gear."

Good. Hope they finally decide to focus on polishing old features instead of making new buggy ones.
 
There seem to be a hundred different interpretations of those comments, its almost as bad as how people had to intepret Major Nelson's stuff to make any sense in the early days of Xbox One.

How I see it is that we're stepping away from versioning where Microsoft stops at a build number and says "this is feature complete, lets move to launch and update support now." We'll still have actual Windows versions, but we're also going to have a rolling release cycle, similar to having the option ticked in Linux installers to fetch the latest updates and software while you're still in the install window. Microsoft will probably ask for you to have a working internet connection to have all your software updated before you boot into the desktop for the first time.

This, also knowing that they implemented the repository (or library), streamlining version availability which will include other non-Windows applications.
 
Misleading title as they will still create Windows versions but it will be a free update like OSX, iOS, Android.

Microsoft and "free" seldom go together. I can't see Microsoft just ending their revenue stream from Windows and also updating it endlessly for nothing.

More likely, they'll get everyone accustomed to continuous updates but then start making them contingent on a subscription or something like that. This is probably why they're reportedly making Win10 a free upgrade for all and sundry - get everyone on the platform, get everyone used to regular incremental updates, start charging $$$.
 
Microsoft and "free" seldom go together. I can't see Microsoft just ending their revenue stream from Windows and also updating it endlessly for nothing.

More likely, they'll get everyone accustomed to continuous updates but then start making them contingent on a subscription or something like that. This is probably why they're reportedly making Win10 a free upgrade for all and sundry - get everyone on the platform, get everyone used to regular incremental updates, start charging $$$.

I can see them charging for major revision updates..... but it will be a minimal fee, like say $10 or something stupid... but the minor upgrades will be free.

MS are fully aware that getting your consumers on board is a good way of keeping the Enterprise customers on Windows (for which they will charge Volume Licensing fees)..... as well as entrenching the rest of their ecosystem. It may end up with a slightly lower earnings value, but a much more stable figure for many years to come.
 
Maybe this means the end of Windows differentiation along the lines of Starter, Home, Business, Professional, Single Language et al that they've been promising since Win 7 leaving us with just 32 & 64 bit versions.

... hope this is the case but IBIWISI :whistle:
 
OS as a service when Telkom is your fixed line provider?

Do not want!
 
Yeah, ok except how is MS planning on making bucks from Windows in 3 years time? Yearly subscriptions? If not I could conceivably own one windows license that will last me for the rest of my life. There's a part of this that's not being revealed yet.
 
Yeah, ok except how is MS planning on making bucks from Windows in 3 years time? Yearly subscriptions? If not I could conceivably own one windows license that will last me for the rest of my life. There's a part of this that's not being revealed yet.

I honestly can't see MS just giving up their future Windows revenues and regularly updating the platform without some way of making money out of it. I'll bet they're planning on making the regular updates dependent on a subscription of some kind. Or maybe they'll have premium features or updates that require a subscription.
 
Yeah, ok except how is MS planning on making bucks from Windows in 3 years time? Yearly subscriptions? If not I could conceivably own one windows license that will last me for the rest of my life. There's a part of this that's not being revealed yet.

Through their marketplaces/store. Advertising is the game.
 
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