Millennials commit fewer crimes than boomers & Gen X, study finds

surface said:
Most of my colleagues have all this (80% with 2 kids, 20% with 3 kids if I recollect vaguely) and all these are definitely post-boomers. Most of them have 1000sq.m + stands which is pretty big for a townhouse resident like me. :p

p.s. Of course not postman's salary so I get your point. If I have to guess, about 60% of these households are double income earners.
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My dad is on the cusp of Boomer and Gen X.

If he looks at the young people in his profession (blue collar) today and the salaries they earn, there is no way he would have achieved what he did had he started out now. He didn't even finish high school (Technikon after finishing Standard 9 followed by an apprenticeship) and owned his own house outright by the age of 45 and went on holidays (week+) twice a year.

You now have Millenials and Zoomers with degrees that can't get basic jobs (no, not everybody is studying a BA in Arts and Crafts) and home ownership among these generations is way lower than preceding ones because salaries have not kept pace with the price of housing and the cost of living. A massive percentage of people in their late 20s/early 30s are still living with family or roommates. You're looking at Great Depression figures regards the percentage of young adults that cannot afford to leave home.
 
thestaggy said:
My dad is on the cusp of Boomer and Gen X.

If he looks at the young people in his profession (blue collar) today and the salaries they earn, there is no way he would have achieved what he did had he started out now. He didn't even finish high school (Technikon after finishing Standard 9 followed by an apprenticeship) and owned his own house outright by the age of 45 and went on holidays (week+) twice a year.

You now have Millenials and Zoomers with degrees that can't get basic jobs (no, not everybody is studying a BA in Arts and Crafts) and home ownership among these generations is way lower than preceding ones because salaries have not kept pace with the price of housing and the cost of living. A massive percentage of people in their late 20s/early 30s are still living with family or roommates. You're looking at Great Depression figures regards the percentage of young adults that cannot afford to leave home.
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This is thanks to the housing booms of the 80s and 90s, caused by you guessed it boomers. Also the constant need for boomer/gen X parents to push their kids into varsity leaving massive amounts of student debt doesn't help.
On top of that the professions of the 80s and 90s that paid extremely well basically things in IT are now just normal everyday office jobs, but they require a massive time and investment.
 
Lupus said:
Also the constant need for boomer/gen X parents to push their kids into varsity leaving massive amounts of student debt doesn't help.
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This.

If you are a mildly industrious plumber, electrician, welder or other artisan there is an essentially insatiable demand for your services right now. If I look around, the plumbers and house painters, and rubble removal guys are basically booked up for weeks or months in advance, charging what they want and working 12 hour days just to keep up, and they are buying the big houses and fancy cars. The other 'office job' types, not so much.
 
thestaggy said:
My dad is on the cusp of Boomer and Gen X.

If he looks at the young people in his profession (blue collar) today and the salaries they earn, there is no way he would have achieved what he did had he started out now. He didn't even finish high school (Technikon after finishing Standard 9 followed by an apprenticeship) and owned his own house outright by the age of 45 and went on holidays (week+) twice a year.

You now have Millenials and Zoomers with degrees that can't get basic jobs (no, not everybody is studying a BA in Arts and Crafts) and home ownership among these generations is way lower than preceding ones because salaries have not kept pace with the price of housing and the cost of living. A massive percentage of people in their late 20s/early 30s are still living with family or roommates. You're looking at Great Depression figures regards the percentage of young adults that cannot afford to leave home.
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It depends on sector. have seen 25 year old junior devs acquiring first houses. Needless to say they were propped sufficiently by their parents but they will be on this forum bragging about how they worked hard their entire life to achieve where they are.
 
notayoba said:
This.

If you are a mildly industrious plumber, electrician, welder or other artisan there is an essentially insatiable demand for your services right now. If I look around, the plumbers and house painters, and rubble removal guys are basically booked up for weeks or months in advance, charging what they want and working 12 hour days just to keep up, and they are buying the big houses and fancy cars. The other 'office job' types, not so much.
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Yup, you see the prices those professions ask for. Even my sons sensei runs a chimney sweep business on the side, he can charge what he wants as well and he also before winter right up till summer is booked.
 
If millennials are lazy/stupid/etc then one thing is for sure... boomers were the most pathetic parents since you lot raised us.
 
Lupus said:
Yup, you see the prices those professions ask for. Even my sons sensei runs a chimney sweep business on the side, he can charge what he wants as well and he also before winter right up till summer is booked.
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well, trick is to find a "zimbabwean" to work for you instead of some other guy who will eventually get a different "zimbabwean" to do actual work. Bypass the creamy layer so to speak.
 
surface said:
well, trick is to find a "zimbabwean" to work for you instead of some other guy who will eventually get a different "zimbabwean" to do actual work. Bypass the creamy layer so to speak.
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This is what does irritate me, so this guy comes along does the quotes and when you accept he brings a bunch of guys he got from the side of the road or outside builders.
 
Lupus said:
This is what does irritate me, so this guy comes along does the quotes and when you accept he brings a bunch of guys he got from the side of the road or outside builders.
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well the guy looks "respectable", isn't it ? I have managed to avoid all these "respectable" guys so far after 2 experiences. I am pretty sure they both are on mybb talking crap about lazy locals.
 
surface said:
well the guy looks "respectable", isn't it ? I have managed to avoid all these "respectable" guys so far after 2 experiences. I am pretty sure they both are on mybb talking crap about lazy locals.
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They did look respectable sigh. This is the scary thing. I really wish I could get the one set of guys who came and did my ceiling and taps in 2018, they were 2 guys, looked a bit dodge but man they put up a ceiling in 4 hours, they fixed a broken tape in 15 minutes.
This other guy had like 6 guys and it took days to put in a ceiling. Pity those other 2 were on a neotel number.
 
surface said:
well, trick is to find a "zimbabwean" to work for you instead of some other guy who will eventually get a different "zimbabwean" to do actual work. Bypass the creamy layer so to speak.
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Yeah, stuff like that is why the commies get traction. I pay the provider Y, he keeps Y x 0.9 to pay for his new double cab, and pay 10 guys doing the job Y x 0.1
 
notayoba said:
Yeah, stuff like that is why the commies get traction. I pay the provider Y, he keeps Y x 0.9 to pay for his new double cab, and pay 10 guys doing the job Y x 0.1
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That's not how a commie would do it. What you've described is a perfect capitalist
 
In all seriousness, I blame government mandated, standardized education.

In the old days many people didn't even go to school. And not that long ago you could skip a year or 3 when you mastered the work. My dad finished matric at 16 for example, and it was not unusual at all at the time. That fostered a more independent spirit. Sort of a master of your own destiny.

With standardized, mandated government schooling, each generation gets more and more used to be told what to do by 'someone in charge'. This has the positive effect that crime drops because people are scared of authority, and the negative effect of destroying initiative.
 
Sinbad said:
You know millennials can be over 40 now, right?
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Mike Hoxbig said:
You're confusing millennials with boomers.

Millennials reached adulthood around the turn of the millennium. Boomers were born during that period...
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As far as I know, Boomers are the kids of the generation who came home after WW2 to repopulate the world. In other words they are “the baby boomers”.

Their kids are my generation, commonly known as GenX.

Our kids are millenials. My eldest turns 31 this year. I don’t think somebody born in 1981 can be classified as a Millennial.

There’s also this Gen Z who are the gob splat of laat lammetjies from lazy Gen X’rs and randy millennials.

To put it correctly, you determine the generation by who they were born to, not when they were born.
 
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