Mirror (non)Trading International 2 - The Fallout

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John Tempus

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Does anyone know what replies members are getting when they try to withdraw since business is uninterrupted.

I hope the admin people who have helped keep up the appearances of trading and who spent the time manually checking requests over the weekend remember what happened to Bernie Maddof's backroom staff.

I am going to guess that they will selectively give their best shills some payouts and stall for others so that if others moan their shills will jump in and say "just be patient, they are working through the withdrawal requests, it will take time."
 

quovadis

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So now it is a "Business Opportunity"?! And they are still in their MTI t-shirts.
Being linked to an international compamy that is now under investigation might not be the best thing to be now. Hope this couple also sinks.

Each state has its own regulatory bodies - they’ll soon take their pound of flesh if/when this collapses. If he transacted with people across state lines then it also becomes a federal matter and game over.
 

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From the MTI statement, I see the bot is running fully autonomous now as predicted
 

LJ1234

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Good day all - wow what a day :) A QUICK UPDATE AFTER OUR ZOOM CALL THIS EVENING WITH CORPORATE - The FSCA has raided 4 MTI institutions: The house of Johann Steynberg The Stellenbosch office The house of Cheri Marks The Traders premises They had obtained a court order to do so, based on inaccurate information provided by the FSCA to the High Court. The FSCA claims to not have proof of: 1) The full bitcoin amount is accounted for 2) Genuine trading MTI had provided them with both. It is, like one of our leaders says, they are asking the same questions and expecting a different answer. What is important to know, before I share more: 1) Trading is happening as per usual 2) Statement runs are happening as per usual 3) Your bitcoin is safe (and growing) as per usual 4) MTI will continue to deliver on their brand promise as per usual, caring for the every day man on the street! 5) The support services is running as per usual 6) No back office detail was obtained 7) NO members details were obtained 8) Withdrawals are working as normal 9) P2P is working 100% 10) There will be NO immediate media response from MTI as to avoid being drawn into the circus. The truth and the integrity of the company will be prove itself. What will you see and read in the media? 1) Sensation in terms of the raiding of MTI’s offices 2) Luxury homes and cars 3) Trying to discredit MTI with NO BASIS for argument The aim is to create panic and confusion amongst MTI members and the public. Corporations offering conventional methods of returns on capital will be very happy if you would withdraw your BTC from MTI and put it with them in order for you to make your so called reasonable % offered by them PER YEAR! Its been openly stated by Brandon Topham from the FSCA does NOT LIKE crypto’s in general (read his negative article about crypto’s about a month ago), and he does not encourage trading and decentralization. MTI's attorneys are already preparing their counter arguments for a counter lawsuit in the High Court tomorrow. This is extremely important for YOU as an individual to understand whom to trust. The FSCA with their Hollywood style approach? The media and online reviews? Or the MTI board? I personally choose the latter, for good reason and for whom I have the absolute HIGHEST respect after today’s leadership meeting. It was also raised in the leadership meeting that some of the investigating officers from the FSCA APOLOGIZED to the individuals whose homes were raided. This is pure evidence that they have no case. They had one agenda… to bully and intimidate, be disruptive and invasive. They even read through some personal diaries. What IS important to know is: Not a single complaint has been received from ANY of the 200 000 customers. As stated previously, MTI is focused on delivering upon their brand promise; to grow your Bitcoin and alleviate poverty. The FSCA also questioned (even though they have seen it): • the full bitcoin pool volume and • the proof of the FULL bitcoin movement on the blockchain from previous broker to the current one. And for both these allegations, MTI has provided full proof, countering these allegations. Fortunately, MTI as company is set up in such a way that the board runs the company smoothly, even midst the sensational attack of today. MTI have NEVER and will NEVER guarantee returns HOWEVER history does not lie and MTI have been delivering between 7- 8% per month for the last 18 months. That being said, all withdrawals are being processed and members are welcome to withdraw their funds should they feel uncomfortable. I would suggest however that you see this for what it is, a co-ordinated smear campaign. (Those involved will soon realize you reap what you sow and that the wheel turns) A closing word: you should realize this attack is not against MTI only. It is in the character of the FSCA like most global authorities to intimidate and bully (there are many previous instances where they have tried the same tactics with other companies).
MTI’s desire is for the people to flourish and prosper. Its been noticed that a lot of Bitcoin has already left the system which shows they have done part of what they set out to do but lets stand together for what is right and maybe start to boldly say and state what you believe and let the institutions know that there has been enough abuse. The call is yours at the end of the day and like always your BTC are NEVER locked in. Those who choose to support MTI will reap the benefits of standing firm in times of adversity and not allowing fear to control your actions. We all should have the right to choose where we place our funds and this is still the case should you decide to remove yours. Updates will follow as we get them from Corporate who have acted in a very professional manner through this trying time.
 

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But this is absolute bs MTI made profit since Sept last year not the whole 18 months there were serious losses and they can't even keep that as part of the history...
Although, in truth, while MTI has declared substantial profit, they have never made any profit.
 

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Good day all - wow what a day :) A QUICK UPDATE AFTER OUR ZOOM CALL THIS EVENING WITH CORPORATE - The FSCA has raided 4 MTI institutions: The house of Johann Steynberg The Stellenbosch office The house of Cheri Marks The Traders premises They had obtained a court order to do so, based on inaccurate information provided by the FSCA to the High Court. The FSCA claims to not have proof of: 1) The full bitcoin amount is accounted for 2) Genuine trading MTI had provided them with both. It is, like one of our leaders says, they are asking the same questions and expecting a different answer. What is important to know, before I share more: 1) Trading is happening as per usual 2) Statement runs are happening as per usual 3) Your bitcoin is safe (and growing) as per usual 4) MTI will continue to deliver on their brand promise as per usual, caring for the every day man on the street! 5) The support services is running as per usual 6) No back office detail was obtained 7) NO members details were obtained 8) Withdrawals are working as normal 9) P2P is working 100% 10) There will be NO immediate media response from MTI as to avoid being drawn into the circus. The truth and the integrity of the company will be prove itself. What will you see and read in the media? 1) Sensation in terms of the raiding of MTI’s offices 2) Luxury homes and cars 3) Trying to discredit MTI with NO BASIS for argument The aim is to create panic and confusion amongst MTI members and the public. Corporations offering conventional methods of returns on capital will be very happy if you would withdraw your BTC from MTI and put it with them in order for you to make your so called reasonable % offered by them PER YEAR! Its been openly stated by Brandon Topham from the FSCA does NOT LIKE crypto’s in general (read his negative article about crypto’s about a month ago), and he does not encourage trading and decentralization. MTI's attorneys are already preparing their counter arguments for a counter lawsuit in the High Court tomorrow. This is extremely important for YOU as an individual to understand whom to trust. The FSCA with their Hollywood style approach? The media and online reviews? Or the MTI board? I personally choose the latter, for good reason and for whom I have the absolute HIGHEST respect after today’s leadership meeting. It was also raised in the leadership meeting that some of the investigating officers from the FSCA APOLOGIZED to the individuals whose homes were raided. This is pure evidence that they have no case. They had one agenda… to bully and intimidate, be disruptive and invasive. They even read through some personal diaries. What IS important to know is: Not a single complaint has been received from ANY of the 200 000 customers. As stated previously, MTI is focused on delivering upon their brand promise; to grow your Bitcoin and alleviate poverty. The FSCA also questioned (even though they have seen it): • the full bitcoin pool volume and • the proof of the FULL bitcoin movement on the blockchain from previous broker to the current one. And for both these allegations, MTI has provided full proof, countering these allegations. Fortunately, MTI as company is set up in such a way that the board runs the company smoothly, even midst the sensational attack of today. MTI have NEVER and will NEVER guarantee returns HOWEVER history does not lie and MTI have been delivering between 7- 8% per month for the last 18 months. That being said, all withdrawals are being processed and members are welcome to withdraw their funds should they feel uncomfortable. I would suggest however that you see this for what it is, a co-ordinated smear campaign. (Those involved will soon realize you reap what you sow and that the wheel turns) A closing word: you should realize this attack is not against MTI only. It is in the character of the FSCA like most global authorities to intimidate and bully (there are many previous instances where they have tried the same tactics with other companies).
MTI’s desire is for the people to flourish and prosper. Its been noticed that a lot of Bitcoin has already left the system which shows they have done part of what they set out to do but lets stand together for what is right and maybe start to boldly say and state what you believe and let the institutions know that there has been enough abuse. The call is yours at the end of the day and like always your BTC are NEVER locked in. Those who choose to support MTI will reap the benefits of standing firm in times of adversity and not allowing fear to control your actions. We all should have the right to choose where we place our funds and this is still the case should you decide to remove yours. Updates will follow as we get them from Corporate who have acted in a very professional manner through this trying time.

HAHAHAHHAA yeah, sure, the investigators apologized. Good grief these people will believe anything MTI throws at them, irrespective of how far-fetched it is.
 

Snyper564

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Although, in truth, while MTI has declared substantial profit, they have never made any profit.
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I get that, but this story isn't even correct. The old MTI made serious losses and all these people just don't realize that at all!
 

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Good day all - wow what a day :) A QUICK UPDATE AFTER OUR ZOOM CALL THIS EVENING WITH CORPORATE - The FSCA has raided 4 MTI institutions: The house of Johann Steynberg The Stellenbosch office The house of Cheri Marks The Traders premises They had obtained a court order to do so, based on inaccurate information provided by the FSCA to the High Court. The FSCA claims to not have proof of: 1) The full bitcoin amount is accounted for 2) Genuine trading MTI had provided them with both. It is, like one of our leaders says, they are asking the same questions and expecting a different answer. What is important to know, before I share more: 1) Trading is happening as per usual 2) Statement runs are happening as per usual 3) Your bitcoin is safe (and growing) as per usual 4) MTI will continue to deliver on their brand promise as per usual, caring for the every day man on the street! 5) The support services is running as per usual 6) No back office detail was obtained 7) NO members details were obtained 8) Withdrawals are working as normal 9) P2P is working 100% 10) There will be NO immediate media response from MTI as to avoid being drawn into the circus. The truth and the integrity of the company will be prove itself. What will you see and read in the media? 1) Sensation in terms of the raiding of MTI’s offices 2) Luxury homes and cars 3) Trying to discredit MTI with NO BASIS for argument The aim is to create panic and confusion amongst MTI members and the public. Corporations offering conventional methods of returns on capital will be very happy if you would withdraw your BTC from MTI and put it with them in order for you to make your so called reasonable % offered by them PER YEAR! Its been openly stated by Brandon Topham from the FSCA does NOT LIKE crypto’s in general (read his negative article about crypto’s about a month ago), and he does not encourage trading and decentralization. MTI's attorneys are already preparing their counter arguments for a counter lawsuit in the High Court tomorrow. This is extremely important for YOU as an individual to understand whom to trust. The FSCA with their Hollywood style approach? The media and online reviews? Or the MTI board? I personally choose the latter, for good reason and for whom I have the absolute HIGHEST respect after today’s leadership meeting. It was also raised in the leadership meeting that some of the investigating officers from the FSCA APOLOGIZED to the individuals whose homes were raided. This is pure evidence that they have no case. They had one agenda… to bully and intimidate, be disruptive and invasive. They even read through some personal diaries. What IS important to know is: Not a single complaint has been received from ANY of the 200 000 customers. As stated previously, MTI is focused on delivering upon their brand promise; to grow your Bitcoin and alleviate poverty. The FSCA also questioned (even though they have seen it): • the full bitcoin pool volume and • the proof of the FULL bitcoin movement on the blockchain from previous broker to the current one. And for both these allegations, MTI has provided full proof, countering these allegations. Fortunately, MTI as company is set up in such a way that the board runs the company smoothly, even midst the sensational attack of today. MTI have NEVER and will NEVER guarantee returns HOWEVER history does not lie and MTI have been delivering between 7- 8% per month for the last 18 months. That being said, all withdrawals are being processed and members are welcome to withdraw their funds should they feel uncomfortable. I would suggest however that you see this for what it is, a co-ordinated smear campaign. (Those involved will soon realize you reap what you sow and that the wheel turns) A closing word: you should realize this attack is not against MTI only. It is in the character of the FSCA like most global authorities to intimidate and bully (there are many previous instances where they have tried the same tactics with other companies).
MTI’s desire is for the people to flourish and prosper. Its been noticed that a lot of Bitcoin has already left the system which shows they have done part of what they set out to do but lets stand together for what is right and maybe start to boldly say and state what you believe and let the institutions know that there has been enough abuse. The call is yours at the end of the day and like always your BTC are NEVER locked in. Those who choose to support MTI will reap the benefits of standing firm in times of adversity and not allowing fear to control your actions. We all should have the right to choose where we place our funds and this is still the case should you decide to remove yours. Updates will follow as we get them from Corporate who have acted in a very professional manner through this trying time.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breathes* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
 

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Is is too much to hope they are not lying when they say MTI will be approaching the High Court?
 

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Good day all - wow what a day :) A QUICK UPDATE AFTER OUR ZOOM CALL THIS EVENING WITH CORPORATE - The FSCA has raided 4 MTI institutions: The house of Johann Steynberg The Stellenbosch office The house of Cheri Marks The Traders premises They had obtained a court order to do so, based on inaccurate information provided by the FSCA to the High Court. The FSCA claims to not have proof of: 1) The full bitcoin amount is accounted for 2) Genuine trading MTI had provided them with both. It is, like one of our leaders says, they are asking the same questions and expecting a different answer. What is important to know, before I share more: 1) Trading is happening as per usual 2) Statement runs are happening as per usual 3) Your bitcoin is safe (and growing) as per usual 4) MTI will continue to deliver on their brand promise as per usual, caring for the every day man on the street! 5) The support services is running as per usual 6) No back office detail was obtained 7) NO members details were obtained 8) Withdrawals are working as normal 9) P2P is working 100% 10) There will be NO immediate media response from MTI as to avoid being drawn into the circus. The truth and the integrity of the company will be prove itself. What will you see and read in the media? 1) Sensation in terms of the raiding of MTI’s offices 2) Luxury homes and cars 3) Trying to discredit MTI with NO BASIS for argument The aim is to create panic and confusion amongst MTI members and the public. Corporations offering conventional methods of returns on capital will be very happy if you would withdraw your BTC from MTI and put it with them in order for you to make your so called reasonable % offered by them PER YEAR! Its been openly stated by Brandon Topham from the FSCA does NOT LIKE crypto’s in general (read his negative article about crypto’s about a month ago), and he does not encourage trading and decentralization. MTI's attorneys are already preparing their counter arguments for a counter lawsuit in the High Court tomorrow. This is extremely important for YOU as an individual to understand whom to trust. The FSCA with their Hollywood style approach? The media and online reviews? Or the MTI board? I personally choose the latter, for good reason and for whom I have the absolute HIGHEST respect after today’s leadership meeting. It was also raised in the leadership meeting that some of the investigating officers from the FSCA APOLOGIZED to the individuals whose homes were raided. This is pure evidence that they have no case. They had one agenda… to bully and intimidate, be disruptive and invasive. They even read through some personal diaries. What IS important to know is: Not a single complaint has been received from ANY of the 200 000 customers. As stated previously, MTI is focused on delivering upon their brand promise; to grow your Bitcoin and alleviate poverty. The FSCA also questioned (even though they have seen it): • the full bitcoin pool volume and • the proof of the FULL bitcoin movement on the blockchain from previous broker to the current one. And for both these allegations, MTI has provided full proof, countering these allegations. Fortunately, MTI as company is set up in such a way that the board runs the company smoothly, even midst the sensational attack of today. MTI have NEVER and will NEVER guarantee returns HOWEVER history does not lie and MTI have been delivering between 7- 8% per month for the last 18 months. That being said, all withdrawals are being processed and members are welcome to withdraw their funds should they feel uncomfortable. I would suggest however that you see this for what it is, a co-ordinated smear campaign. (Those involved will soon realize you reap what you sow and that the wheel turns) A closing word: you should realize this attack is not against MTI only. It is in the character of the FSCA like most global authorities to intimidate and bully (there are many previous instances where they have tried the same tactics with other companies).
MTI’s desire is for the people to flourish and prosper. Its been noticed that a lot of Bitcoin has already left the system which shows they have done part of what they set out to do but lets stand together for what is right and maybe start to boldly say and state what you believe and let the institutions know that there has been enough abuse. The call is yours at the end of the day and like always your BTC are NEVER locked in. Those who choose to support MTI will reap the benefits of standing firm in times of adversity and not allowing fear to control your actions. We all should have the right to choose where we place our funds and this is still the case should you decide to remove yours. Updates will follow as we get them from Corporate who have acted in a very professional manner through this trying time.
Carrying on to the bitter end. The options are a) that they ARE innocent and we have all been wrong; b) many are really seriously, totally ignorant of anything about the laws regarding companies etc etc or c) the uplines have some way of continuing to withdraw even when ordinary members cannot do so.
 

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Good day all - wow what a day :) A QUICK UPDATE AFTER OUR ZOOM CALL THIS EVENING WITH CORPORATE - The FSCA has raided 4 MTI institutions: The house of Johann Steynberg The Stellenbosch office The house of Cheri Marks The Traders premises They had obtained a court order to do so, based on inaccurate information provided by the FSCA to the High Court. The FSCA claims to not have proof of: 1) The full bitcoin amount is accounted for 2) Genuine trading MTI had provided them with both. It is, like one of our leaders says, they are asking the same questions and expecting a different answer. What is important to know, before I share more: 1) Trading is happening as per usual 2) Statement runs are happening as per usual 3) Your bitcoin is safe (and growing) as per usual 4) MTI will continue to deliver on their brand promise as per usual, caring for the every day man on the street! 5) The support services is running as per usual 6) No back office detail was obtained 7) NO members details were obtained 8) Withdrawals are working as normal 9) P2P is working 100% 10) There will be NO immediate media response from MTI as to avoid being drawn into the circus. The truth and the integrity of the company will be prove itself. What will you see and read in the media? 1) Sensation in terms of the raiding of MTI’s offices 2) Luxury homes and cars 3) Trying to discredit MTI with NO BASIS for argument The aim is to create panic and confusion amongst MTI members and the public. Corporations offering conventional methods of returns on capital will be very happy if you would withdraw your BTC from MTI and put it with them in order for you to make your so called reasonable % offered by them PER YEAR! Its been openly stated by Brandon Topham from the FSCA does NOT LIKE crypto’s in general (read his negative article about crypto’s about a month ago), and he does not encourage trading and decentralization. MTI's attorneys are already preparing their counter arguments for a counter lawsuit in the High Court tomorrow. This is extremely important for YOU as an individual to understand whom to trust. The FSCA with their Hollywood style approach? The media and online reviews? Or the MTI board? I personally choose the latter, for good reason and for whom I have the absolute HIGHEST respect after today’s leadership meeting. It was also raised in the leadership meeting that some of the investigating officers from the FSCA APOLOGIZED to the individuals whose homes were raided. This is pure evidence that they have no case. They had one agenda… to bully and intimidate, be disruptive and invasive. They even read through some personal diaries. What IS important to know is: Not a single complaint has been received from ANY of the 200 000 customers. As stated previously, MTI is focused on delivering upon their brand promise; to grow your Bitcoin and alleviate poverty. The FSCA also questioned (even though they have seen it): • the full bitcoin pool volume and • the proof of the FULL bitcoin movement on the blockchain from previous broker to the current one. And for both these allegations, MTI has provided full proof, countering these allegations. Fortunately, MTI as company is set up in such a way that the board runs the company smoothly, even midst the sensational attack of today. MTI have NEVER and will NEVER guarantee returns HOWEVER history does not lie and MTI have been delivering between 7- 8% per month for the last 18 months. That being said, all withdrawals are being processed and members are welcome to withdraw their funds should they feel uncomfortable. I would suggest however that you see this for what it is, a co-ordinated smear campaign. (Those involved will soon realize you reap what you sow and that the wheel turns) A closing word: you should realize this attack is not against MTI only. It is in the character of the FSCA like most global authorities to intimidate and bully (there are many previous instances where they have tried the same tactics with other companies).
MTI’s desire is for the people to flourish and prosper. Its been noticed that a lot of Bitcoin has already left the system which shows they have done part of what they set out to do but lets stand together for what is right and maybe start to boldly say and state what you believe and let the institutions know that there has been enough abuse. The call is yours at the end of the day and like always your BTC are NEVER locked in. Those who choose to support MTI will reap the benefits of standing firm in times of adversity and not allowing fear to control your actions. We all should have the right to choose where we place our funds and this is still the case should you decide to remove yours. Updates will follow as we get them from Corporate who have acted in a very professional manner through this trying time.
7. No member details were obtained.

You don't need MTI assets seized to obtain member details. This is already public domain.
 
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