Modify 1.4i or sell

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Hi guys I know very little about cars technically but would like my 1.4i 2005 corsa lite modified, (well I want to put a 1.6/1.8/2L) turbo engine into it.

Firstly is this possible? I am still paying for the little bastard and am not very happy with its performance so I thought rather than selling it (and still having to pay in R8000 to MFC) rather mod it.

Also want power steering, ABS brakes and aircon, not even sure if it is possible to modify these aspects.

Well either that or I lose a crap load of money (Sell it) and buy myself a 200sx.

Excuse erratically written post and all thoughts are appreciated
 
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Not worth it at all.
If you want a fast car, buy one.
Modifying is good fun, but ends up being very expensive.
Considering what you are working with, i wouldnt bother.

Good luck finding a non screwed 200sx.
 
A good friend of mine has 2, both in great condition, one a modified track car the other a stock ca18det
 
Not worth it at all.
If you want a fast car, buy one.
Modifying is good fun, but ends up being very expensive.

+1
You're going to spend a lot less time and money purchasing a second hand high performance vehicle than building one up from an entry level "round about".
 
There is too much to try and upgrade on the corsa, ditch it and buy and buy an older faster car.
 
Best mod would be to drop in a stock corsa 1.6 or 1.8. Should get something for your old engine but expect to be out around R10k at least
Aircon is possible get quotes, for that expect another 5k at least
ABS nope (if possible not easy)
Powersteering dont think so (if possible not easy)

Just get a new shape Opel Corsa they're nice and not too expensive
 
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Well first issue is your finance house probably won't be very happy with you modifying their car, but obviously no-one ever tells them this.
Second issue is that you will have very little performance gains on a non turbo engine. On a 1.4i there's very little point to it anyway.
Third issue of course is the money aspect. If you owe 8k on a corsa lite then I'm guessing you don't exactly have a lot of cash to throw around. Modifying your car is pretty much money down the drain. Generally performance mods even lower the resale value of the car. Rather pay it off, save up a bit and get a better/faster car. If you're stuck with it for a while and can do it you may as well do the aircon though as that will help when it comes to resale, also it's totally crap not having aircon.
 
Engine swop is really the best choice.

Cheapest options: (click on engine codes for engine performance stats)
Get a Z18XE: Engine is straight fit, even fits on standard transmission (and yes the transmission can easily handle it). You only need a bigger radiator, need 2 replace the 2 heater pipes with u-bend pipes and need the ECU + Key set from the Z18XE engine or get after market ECU. Can be done for around R10K but expect to pay at least R15K if you have it done. Engine can only be had from Zafira B (locally) but usually the engine is imported because they weren't common here.

That should give you a 7 seconds to 100 performance. Aircon everything can be kept and if you fitted the larger radiator it'll be as reliable as standard.

Next option:
C20XE: This one you need an extra engine mounting, another transmission (GetRag F20 or F23), standard C20XE management, bigger radiator, different side shafts, so many things to name but it has been done plenty (no need to cut or anything like that, everything is just straight replace from Opel Kadett or Astra F) and many mechanics can do it (PM me if you want me to set you up with someone). It'll cost around R20K at least. Some people will say you can keep aircon, others not. This engine is available as an import and local. Locally it was used in the Opel Kadett GSi 16V S (commonly known as the SuperBoss) and also the Opel Kadett GSI 16v (known as BigBoss) and finally the Opel Monza 2.0 16v

Next option:
X30XE: This one will probably cost around R25K and it is a V6 3.0L from cars like the Isuzu Double Cab 3.0 Petrol. Drinks petrol but pretty much same procedure as C20XE but it isn't done much so it'll cost more because there are fewer mechanics that do it. But still you don't need to cut or whatever, only need extra mounting and replace a bunch of things. So say around R25-30K. Keeping air condition not an option.

Next option:
C20LET: This is the engine from the Astra 200tS. Pretty much the same procedure as doing a c20XE but the engines are expensive and rare so expect to many rands.

Fastest option:
C20XE (see above) with a Turbo: There are many of these out there, the most powerful I've seen outputs around 300kW at the wheels (the guy who owns it is known as CorsaNostra on the OpelOwnersForum). He is commonly at racing events but his setup cost him quite a bit but his car is 10 second quarter mile type car. Output can be anything from 150kW to 300kW as I said and it is fairly reliable depending who builds it, but all the options above are stock standard options and therefore they are VERY reliable whereas this could be less reliable because you need someone who really knows their stuff.

As for is it worth it?

Not sure, the car will be fast. A C20XE Corsa Lite will be faster in a straight line than a VW Golf GTi but it will definitely not be as luxurious and it can be very dangerous (you will have plenty of torque steer and wheel spin). But at the same time it can be fun to drive.

To answer the question, yes it is worth it if you want something fun and don't mind a rough and ready type racer that is a bit dangerous but if you want safe and luxurious get another car.

For example a Corsa with a c20xe engine will very quickly run off it's clock (eg. past 220km/h) and goes to around 250km/h, not exactly safe in a Corsa Lite. Corsa Lite with a Turbo C20XE is very dangrious, few people on the OpelOwnersForum have gotten killed (yeah, no joke, hitting trees and such because of overpowering torque steer and general wheel spin). I was in one and was driven in a straight line and it had wheel spin at 200km/h and it felt like a plane taking off, seriously feels unsafe :p and that thing pretty much could hit ~270km/h before it ran out of RPM.

Some pics:
Z18XE Corsa
C20XE Corsa
C20LET Corsa
 
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Wow gnome thanks for taking the time out for all that information, very much appreciated, well want a fast car but not one thats going to spin out and kill me so if I do modify it'll be with one of the lesser Engines.

As for the question re mileage, the SX I want has about 220k on the clock, very high but I personally helped the owner take it in for a turbo recon and he completely re-did the engine (at 200k) body is still sound and engine is perfect. Hes looking for 45k.

Still undecided but I'll probably go for the 200sx, although I'm going to dig deeper into the engines Gnome mentioned.
 
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