Mogoeng called arrogant, short-tempered

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Heaven help South Africa if this idiot becomes Chief Justice... :mad:

Source: News 24

Cape Town - Chief Justice nominee Mogoeng Mogoeng defended his "intellectual depth" in an interview with the Judicial Services Commission (JSC) on Saturday.

"I have no doubt about my own intellectual depth," Mogoeng said after being asked why he had not written any legal articles as other judges had.

Mogoeng said he did not have a "passion for writing".

He added he had always had a problem with colleagues who used words "you had to look up in a dictionary to understand" and that he was "passionate about judicial education".

"When I was Judge President of the North West, I would subject myself to interact with public on radio. People were just hungry to know the basics.
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He's a judge and he doesn't have a passion for writing? :D

He's a judge and he doesn't like it when other judges use big words? :wtf: How did this guy pass his law exams then? He should know lawyers love their Latin phrases....
 
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To some extent I agree about the unnecessary use of big words to express simple ideas.
 
Jamal said:
To some extent I agree about the unnecessary use of big words to express simple ideas.
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Yes, but he should know and understand the ‘big words’ in order to translate them into simple and understandable prose. All judges and lawyers should. Your assertion can only be used as an excuse when ‘big words’ are used to baffle and confuse the consumer.
 
Um... this is problematic on so many levels for the position he is hoping to fill...

September 4 2011 at 01:02pm

Chief Justice nominee Mogoeng Mogoeng told the Judicial Services Commission on Sunday that God wants him to be appointed to the position.

“Do you think God wants you to be appointed Chief Justice,” Inkatha Freedom Party commissioner Koos van der Merwe asked Mogoeng.

“I think so,” Mogoeng said.

“That creates problem for me,” Van der Merwe said. “If I vote against you what is God going to do to me?”

“That is between you and God, commissioner,” Mogoeng replied.

Mogoeng said he prayed and got a signal that “it was the right thing to do” after President Jacob Zuma has nominated him for the position.

“I prayed and got a signal it was the right thing to do when I was approached,” Mogoeng said.

“I am one of those believers who believe that there is God and God does speak.

“When a position comes like this one, I wouldn't take it unless I had prayed and satisfied myself that God wants me to take it.

“Without the... God I depend on for strength I am going to fail.”
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:wtf: :erm:

He also seems to believe that "his government and its laws" sets the country's constitution... I watched a bit of his interview this morning, and he does indeed seem to be completely wrong for the position. To confuse the laws of his government with the constitution should equate immediate disqualification.

Aai.Aai.Aaaai.
 
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I do not think is an ignorant cretin...
I feel that he has the correct attitude towards his government that would be invaluable in the position that they want him to fill.

Reminds me of two Zapiro cartoons...

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Palimino said:
This man shouldn’t even be a regular judge. Or a lawyer for that matter. He is an ignorant cretin.
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Watching him on TV this afternoon makes me very uneasy... there is an undercurrent of serious disorder within his frame... he has some serious issues he needs to work through. There is NO way he can be recommended for this position at all.
 
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Being very religious should also disqualify you from eligibility for this kind of position unless you've demonstrated you can keep your religious beliefs out of your professional life.

Jamal said:
To some extent I agree about the unnecessary use of big words to express simple ideas.
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Lawyers love abstruse language which they falsely claim is necessary to avoid ambiguity, but is employed primarily to make it harder for laypeople to understand.
 
This is one of the troubling aspects of this man... he has MERGED them... he is even quoting from the bible as motivation for his appointment to this position.

noxibox said:
Being very religious should also disqualify you from eligibility for this kind of position unless you've demonstrated you can keep your religious beliefs out of your professional life.

Lawyers love abstruse language which they falsely claim is necessary to avoid ambiguity, but is employed primarily to make it harder for laypeople to understand.
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He went on and on about how you MUST obey the laws of the government, even until the are repealed, and has used bible quotes from Romans to motivate this.... where does this leave the struggle movement during apartheid ? or the Arab spring ? or the civil rights movements across the world ?

His most troubling quality is the reference to the constitution being submissive to the laws of HIS government ! :wtf:

A super custodian he would be indeed. :sick:

EDIT: Just thinking about what I saw this morning on TV... he has without a doubt confirmed that he is in no form or manner suitable for this position... I think that there is no way that the JSC can recommend or accept his nomination and that the process will have to be opened again. He has been his greatest opponent...
 
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BBSA said:
E-news reports that the JSC did confirm his nomination. Seems like our Judiciary is not independent any more.
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It is not for them to confirm or not. Zuma could still appoint the guy against their recommendation. Why is the judiciary no longer independent?
 
R13... said:
Why is the judiciary no longer independent?
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See here:
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Sad really, why didn't they just dismiss the "interview" and go straight to the vote. Like Adam Habib said the whole thing was a farce because the ANC loyalists went there to sing their master's appointee praises while the opposition went in to oppose him. Closed minds all round.

They may have saved it by writing a report on the candidate rather than just voting in a poll the ANC side was guaranteed to win.
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BBSA said:
And who appoints the Judges? The whole process is a farce, strongly influenced by the ANC.
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I know the ANC would love a judiciary sympathetic to them. But thus far the system hasn't worked in their favor. If it were up to them the likes of Hlope would be at the ConCourt. Mogoeng's nomination shows just how they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find a judge sympathetic or malleable or bendable to their will. He's probably the worst judge at the concourt. You see the ANC is dishonest, Sisi Kamphepe (sp) is a more capable judge and a woman to boot, but Zuma won't appoint her because she's also a bit too independent.

In a way you can understand why Zuma would appoint mogoeng. Both men are chauvinists, anti-intellects and unsophisticated. Maybe those are the only qualities Zuma went looking for.
 
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Political appointee isn't the right one for the job.
Gee, wonder where we've seen that before?
 
well, seeing the "leaders" we have in this country, I'm surprised at people for being surprised at this guy being put in charge, i've said this for a long time, and we are seeing it more and more each day

our country is being run by a mafia
 
Tainted

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Expert-slams-chief-justice-selection-process-20110905
De Vos said the jury was out on whether Mogoeng, nominated for the job by President Jacob Zuma after the retirement of former chief justice Sandile Ngcobo, would be "executive minded".

"It might be unfair to say it is clear he will be pro-government, no matter what," said De Vos.

"The problem with the way things have transpired now is that the nominee is tainted in the eyes of majority of the people."

This was bad for the legitimacy of the Constitutional Court and the judicial system.

"The hope is that this process was a learning process for the nominee, and that he would be extra careful in future not to repeat the same mistakes he has made in the past," De Vos said.
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Agree 100%
 
Mogoeng lacks the gravitas, intellectual depth and experience for the job. Clear as daylight from the way he speaks, reacts to criticism and how he conducts himself.
 
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